Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[RescueRanger]

Moeed pirzada and Adil raja have gone completely mad and rogue. You may disagree with the establishment but why downplaying PAF’s achievements on international media?

There’s a very thin line between being a genuine rebel and being a traitor to millat. They’ve just crossed that line now.

Adil Raja with his comments on SM and for what he has said whilst appearing Indian channels should be treated as a terrorist.

Simple.

 

[Baibers_1260]

bad dude, Auranjeb

he'd have his guys spit their paan on good holy vedic bammans etc as a means of humiliation

Auranjeb
Note the misspelling. Indians can't pronounce "Z" anymore because of the "Hindi mein bindi kyun" movement. The "J" sound is symbolized by the Devnagri alphabet " ज " and. the "Z" (zed or zee sound) by the alphabet " ज़ " with a dot or "bindi" below. Hindutva linguistic chauvinsts want the dot or bindi removed as the bindi denotes a foreign or mlech influence on the language. Basically against Urdu words or names. Earlier a mispronunciation was determined to be a trait of an uneducated or uncouth person. Now the mispronunciation is brandished with pride.

 

[r3alist]

Pakistani jets were looking for a full fledged air combat while Indian planners overlooked the possibility of air to air battle or downplayed it a lot. Why?

That's literally like saying, Indians went to a boxing match and were surprised that punches were thrown.





I can't decide whether it's ineptness, actual retardation in the Indian military forces, mixed up with paf air superiority and a superior class of Chinese technology and doctrine, how much do we really wait these things? I actually only think that the paf are in a position to assess this soberly


Finally, imagine a scenario, what if the Chinese air force were literally to go full force on India tomorrow, they could literally roll the skies north to south.... That actually does not seem farfetched

 

[FuturePAF]

On the contrary, India used quantity to its advantage last week. It used a swarm of cheaper missiles and drones to decoy every BrahMos.



I stopped watching this Peerzada guy after his very first podcast on May 7 when it was clear he had too much bugz against the Pak military to talk objectively.

He claims the ISI tried to shut down his YouTube channels before the war and he is carrying that baggage into his vlogs.

IMHO, He observed what everyone else observed, but his analysis overestimates what India actually accomplished. He notes that bases were hit, but also says he knows they could be repaired quickly. He notes the dispersal opportunities to motorways and the US role in brokering a ceasefire (after India’s escalation of striking Nur Khan). But as with any fight, with the use of all elements at its disposal the military had already taken into account these possibilities and tailor made a strategy to employ in these conditions. Unlike India, the Pakistani military doesn’t have the choice of brute force, but needs to find a balance in how it wages war.

As I noted earlier in the thread, he is at a loss of how to advocate for democracy in Pakistan from within the US under these new circumstances. He hasn’t fully recalibrate since Trump was re-elected, and didn’t fully recalibrate to the moment this conflict created.

Now that the fighting has ended and a new paradigm exists in Pakistan, with talk of “a deal with IK”, he may better see what is possible and where the center of gravity is located.

 

[ety]

CCTV reveals: Why is the J-10CE able to achieve such remarkable results?​

Political Insights
2025-05-17 14:26:01 from Beijing
Editor: Dong Xin

On May 17, CCTV's "Military Situation Time" program took stock of recent hot equipment.

The film mentioned that recently, my country's export-oriented fighter J-10CE achieved actual combat results for the first time, shooting down multiple fighter planes in an air battle without any losses. This news instantly attracted great attention from military enthusiasts around the world.

The J-10CE is an all-weather, single-engine, single-seat, multi-purpose fighter independently developed by China's aviation industry. It has the capabilities of system coordinated operations, beyond-visual-range multi-target attacks in strong electromagnetic confrontation environments, and multi-mode precision ground strikes. It has excellent medium and low altitude maneuverable combat, supersonic flight, short takeoff and landing, large combat radius, long range and aerial refueling capabilities. It is equipped with advanced integrated avionics systems and weapon systems, and has strong external weapon capabilities.

As a fighter jet produced in my country for export, what are the advantages of the J-10CE compared with similar fighter jets internationally?

Military expert Zhang Xuefeng introduced that the basic design of the J-10 series fighter jets is very good, with a canard aerodynamic layout and very good maneuverability. The J-10CE has been further improved and has three major advantages.

First of all, the J-10CE has taken many measures to reduce its radar reflection area. The cockpit cover has been coated, a pump-type air inlet is used, and the installed radar antenna is tilted. Through comprehensive improvements, the radar reflection area can be reduced by an order of magnitude.

The second is that the J-10CE's avionics system is very advanced and uses an active phased array radar. The detection range of my country's active phased array radar is constantly improving, and its anti-interference capability is very strong. It can attack targets stably and achieve preemptive detection.

In addition, the missiles carried by the J-10CE are also very advanced, and can detect, track and shoot the enemy first.

The J-10CE is a single-engine fighter with only one engine. Why can it achieve overwhelming results against the twin-engine Rafale?

Zhang Xuefeng pointed out that the Rafale's combat design is very clever, its aerodynamic layout is very advanced, and its maneuverability is very high, but the space in the nose is relatively small, so the radar it is equipped with is relatively small, and it has relatively few transceiver components, so the detection distance is relatively short. In addition, the missiles carried by the Rafale do not have a range advantage, so in this kind of confrontation, even in a single-machine confrontation, the Rafale will suffer a disadvantage.

 

[PK781]

Moeed pirzada and Adil raja have gone completely mad and rogue. You may disagree with the establishment but why downplaying PAF’s achievements on international media?

There’s a very thin line between being a genuine rebel and being a traitor to millat. They’ve just crossed that line now.

Pakistan should revoke/blacklist their CNIC and Passports. Let them run for asylum and suffer humiliations. Perhaps confiscate all their assets in Pakistan. Trust me they wont find any support anywhere

 

[StormBreaker]

There’s a good chance that Russia is also engaged with India to uphold the ceasefire so as to not let the Russian weapons be made mockery of. That could give a weak image of Russian weapons to its adversaries.

 

[mythbuster]

Auranjeb
Note the misspelling. Indians can't pronounce "Z" anymore because of the "Hindi mein bindi kyun" movement. The "J" sound is symbolized by the Devnagri alphabet " ज " and. the "Z" (zed or zee sound) by the alphabet " ज़ " with a dot or "bindi" below. Hindutva linguistic chauvinsts want the dot or bindi removed as the bindi denotes a foreign or mlech influence on the language. Basically against Urdu words or names. Earlier a mispronunciation was determined to be a trait of an uneducated or uncouth person. Now the mispronunciation is brandished with pride.

Well , they need something to take a pride of.... history has been very unkind to them.

 

[r3alist]

There’s a good chance that Russia is also engaged with India to uphold the ceasefire so as to not let the Russian weapons be made mockery of. That could give a weak image of Russian weapons to its adversaries.

Who is buying Russian weapons now? Or even considering them as a significant supplier of important military equipment

Russia did indeed take a fairly neutral stance I believe, otherwise we would be hearing a lot more from India about this.

India's current predicament baffles me, it was said that being allied to no one is an empty and false position, well perhaps this is 20 years of that policy suddenly coalescing all at once as a multi front disaster

 

[Tabmachine]

Afghanistan is a whore of a 'nation'. I have not considered them a 'nation' for a long time. A bunch of ethnic groups with extremely different ideologies, a bizarrely rich national flag image, and barely a national language binding them. Their leaders asked for the Soviets to invade, begged the Soviets to stay in Afghanistan, and decades later a significant part of their leaders asked for America to invade, begged the Americans to stay in Afghanistan. And now their leaders, who profess to be the only true 'Islamic' nation on Earth, just to get a few million $, are ready to sit on Modi's lap.
But unfortunately, that whoring 'nation' is 40 million strong in population and shares a long border with Pakistan and unfortunately has quite a few supporters in Pakistan's northwest region. So there is no choice left for Pakistan, IMO, but to work with that 'nation' to raise its literacy, its economy. It is a long, hard task but those are the only options for long term peace between Pakistan and Afghanistan and for peace within the two countries. I just wished the Soviets were allowed to succeed: We would have another 'Stan' like one of those Central Asian ones: Much more literate, peaceful.

yeah but how do you move forward a country, when they cant even decide whether or not to send girls to school...

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan should revoke/blacklist their CNIC and Passports. Let them run for asylum and suffer humiliations. Perhaps confiscate all their assets in Pakistan. Trust me they wont find any support anywhere

They have had new FIRs registered against them on Thursday by NCCA. They can go cry on social media later.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Finally, imagine a scenario, what if the Chinese air force were literally to go full force on India tomorrow, they could literally roll the skies north to south.... That actually does not seem farfetched

IMO, the IAF won't even show up in the air the way they behaved on 05-10....

 

[PK781]

There’s a good chance that Russia is also engaged with India to uphold the ceasefire so as to not let the Russian weapons be made mockery of. That could give a weak image of Russian weapons to its adversaries.

destruction of the migs ,S400 and SU30 by JF17 and J10C should be reason enough for the Russians to give a slap to the indian rss and military brass.

 

[r3alist]

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[Baibers_1260]

Well , they need something to take a pride of.... history has been very unkind to them.

We are diverting from the topic.. So this is my last post on this topic with due apologies to the mods.
The Sansktization has reached absurd limits, and wordsmiths are busy removing simple everyday Hindustani/English words with hilarious innovations.
Air vent in the aircraft cabin is known as vayunali ( an anal ring to it) and a necktie, is known as ****-Langot