Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

These IT Jargon babus love "Game changer" Everything is a game changer. Su30 was a game changer - Raptor of the East, will deny PAF their own airspace. BC now won't be seen east of Kalaikunda. Then came S400 now Rafale.

they tend to glorify inabilities!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Based on the available evidence, two major claims currently appear false or unverified:

Shooting down PAF fighters – There's no credible or independently confirmed proof supporting this. Indian narratives have no evidence, and open-source data doesn't back the claim.

Destroying S-400 systems – This appears highly unlikely. No reliable evidence has emerged showing damage to such high-value Russian systems, which would otherwise be a major strategic event.

To me this is more interesting about kirana hills because it's very sensitive, the situation remains murky. It's an extremely sensitive location, and the fog around it is thick. Even international conflict trackers and media outlets report inconsistently

there was virtually no 'evidence' of Chinese invasion in Galwan valley, dude!
bugger off, before i start to shove arguments down your throat!

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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[r3alist]

It's an extremely sensitive location, and the fog around it is thick.

Something you share in common

 

[r3alist]

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Here we see laid a bare the true anxiety of the Indian strategic thinker, how do we get the most out of the USA, whilst being able to kind of accuse or gaslight The Americans on being trustworthy or not.

You would think, listing to this sort of dichotomy that India was USA, and USA was India

 

[El Sidd]

World Sikh community should call for an independent investigation into the possibility that India fired Drones and Brahmos at Amritsar.

 

[El Sidd]

Based on the available evidence, two major claims currently appear false or unverified:

Shooting down PAF fighters – There's no credible or independently confirmed proof supporting this. Indian narratives have no evidence, and open-source data doesn't back the claim.

Destroying S-400 systems – This appears highly unlikely. No reliable evidence has emerged showing damage to such high-value Russian systems, which would otherwise be a major strategic event.

To me this is more interesting about kirana hills because it's very sensitive, the situation remains murky. It's an extremely sensitive location, and the fog around it is thick. Even international conflict trackers and media outlets report inconsistently

You are certainly not qualified as GD Bakshi and Arnab.

Yesterday GD Bakshi and Arnab were mocking Pakistan for making damage sustained during Indian aggression. They said and i quote " Pakistanis are pathetic, they are showing damages, who in the right mind admits losses".

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

several Indian news outlets on Youtube, now admitting, boycotting Turkiye would yield no advantage (i.e even boycotting would give Turkiya advantage!)

 

[r3alist]

several Indian news outlets on Youtube, now admitting, boycotting Turkiye would yield no advantage (i.e even boycotting would give Turkiya advantage!)

Why do they do this?

The phases seem to be a lot of performancive outrage, complaining of treachery and lack of trust, and then eventually over time toning it down and scaling back their initial hysteria to just a warning that a stern message has been sent.

 

[Foinikas]

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The majority of people don't know about Indians. So they think there's some propaganda on both sides,but they have no idea of what Indians are like. They have no idea of "Quetta captured by BLA rebels" and "Karachi port completely destroyed" or "Islamabad fell,Sharif surrendered". They actually have no idea about how bad the IAF is.

Yesterday,a friend of mine came over my place and we were talking. And he says "There's evidence coming out,the Indians destroyed 20% of Pakistani air bases and Pakistani air defence failed". I showed him screenshots and videos of their propaganda. He didn't care much.

The majority of Greeks into defence stuff(the rest have no clue at all)don't know more about Indian propaganda or Indian behavior online. And with the very bad record of Pakistani illegals here and the whole Turkey-Pakistan friendship,they tend to believe India didn't suffer so many casualties and destruction.

 

[El Sidd]

The majority of people don't know about Indians. So they think there's some propaganda on both sides,but they have no idea of what Indians are like. They have no idea of "Quetta captured by BLA rebels" and "Karachi port completely destroyed" or "Islamabad fell,Sharif surrendered". They actually have no idea about how bad the IAF is.

Yesterday,a friend of mine came over my place and we were talking. And he says "There's evidence coming out,the Indians destroyed 20% of Pakistani air bases and Pakistani air defence failed". I showed him screenshots and videos of their propaganda. He didn't care much.

The majority of Greeks into defence stuff(the rest have no clue at all)don't know more about Indian propaganda or Indian behavior online. And with the very bad record of Pakistani illegals here and the whole Turkey-Pakistan friendship,they tend to believe India didn't suffer so many casualties and destruction.

You can tell your friend since 20 percent of Pakistan is destroyed, those Pakistanis staying illegally in Greece will never go back.

 

[muhammed45]

Bro I am in Uniform and My info can't be wrong your minister came to tell us not to retaliate Indian strikes along with other Muslin kingdoms but we refused.

You allow Indian in chabahar to sabotage our port, where Kulbushan Yadav cam from and others
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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/iranian-embassy-objects-to-gaurav-aryas-remarks-against-foreign-minister-abbas-araghchi-india-responds-101746932746225.html

Indians insulted Iranian FM for visiting Pakistan first. And you say something similar with a different excuse.

All in all, thanks to almighty, people suffered the least. I remember uncle Asif asked Russians to mediate and ease the tensions. I guess if it was Russian, you would have thanked them. Only he knows what goes on in men's hearts.

 

[Yasser76]

The majority of people don't know about Indians. So they think there's some propaganda on both sides,but they have no idea of what Indians are like. They have no idea of "Quetta captured by BLA rebels" and "Karachi port completely destroyed" or "Islamabad fell,Sharif surrendered". They actually have no idea about how bad the IAF is.

Yesterday,a friend of mine came over my place and we were talking. And he says "There's evidence coming out,the Indians destroyed 20% of Pakistani air bases and Pakistani air defence failed". I showed him screenshots and videos of their propaganda. He didn't care much.

The majority of Greeks into defence stuff(the rest have no clue at all)don't know more about Indian propaganda or Indian behavior online. And with the very bad record of Pakistani illegals here and the whole Turkey-Pakistan friendship,they tend to believe India didn't suffer so many casualties and destruction.

Yeah, but no disrespect, no one really cares what 10 million Greeks think my dude.

I personally love the place (holiday in Kefalonia often) and some Pakistanis even have Greek DNA, but your country and people do not really care what happens in Pakistan and vice versa

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

. And with the very bad record of Pakistani illegals here

Bad record of trying to make a living? Many go there illegally no doubt.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Here we see laid a bare the true anxiety of the Indian strategic thinker, how do we get the most out of the USA, whilst being able to kind of accuse or gaslight The Americans on being trustworthy or not.

You would think, listing to this sort of dichotomy that India was USA, and USA was India

The Indians are out of options. Russian stuff just doesn't work. They are too far back with electronics with no local industry in that of any value. French stuff is massively overpriced and overrated. Their local industry cannot develop anything of value that they have confidence in ( where was Tejas in all this ?!? ).

They have to go American near term with all the issues that brings and maybe Tempest/GCAP long term. They still have the choice of Gripen-E and training from Swedes on training/warfighting concepts as part of that but that simply delays the embrace with the USA that they need to make eventually. The Swedes dont have a viable local pathway to a stealth platform right now.