Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Sharma Ji said:
of course the BJP would not have organized such a rally, duh !

but there was a broad section of society there, not just IMs, all left leaning people, including many many Hindus, Christians and others.

and there were political leaders from the Congress, and other left parties, the communists were out in force.

we ain't China, we can protest as much as we want, for or against whomever or whatever.
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China can't do whatever it wants because the hegemonic country wants to disrupt Chinese society, you know that color revolutions are very strong brainwashing for some self-defeating people, of course, China is a country governed by the rule of law, if there is a problem, we can also raise it in a peaceful way, do you think you can protest and be free? When your country becomes a power that the West fears, the West will also try to suppress you in the form of color revolutions, and then you will know how you illiterate people who have not gone to school have caused trouble for your country, as exemplified by the British White Helmets in Bangladesh.
 
Sharma Ji said:
Missed it, what was it ?

Sure, Israel are allies, tech, pharma, agri, military.. lots of cooperation. They helped during Kargil back in the day too.
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Are you not concerned that too much cooperation and allyship will subvert Indians national interest and sovereignty?
 
@Sharma Ji , We Indians aspire to be like China in economic and military clout and like Israel in its relationship with the USA.
Neither aspirations have been fulfilled at this time.

The irony is that India is part of the anti-China Quad alliance and is also part of BRICS.
 
Sharma Ji said:
of course the BJP would not have organized such a rally, duh !

but there was a broad section of society there, not just IMs, all left leaning people, including many many Hindus, Christians and others.

and there were political leaders from the Congress, and other left parties, the communists were out in force.

we ain't China, we can protest as much as we want, for or against whomever or whatever.
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So plenty of the same types of organisations hold protests in favour of the Palestinians in USA, UK, Germany, and EVEN IN ISRAEL ITSELF.

Does that make any of those nations "pro-Palestinian"?

India is judged - rightly - on the actions and inactions of its overwhelmingly elected government, not on the screams of a minority of dissenters.
 
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I have been following this guy since last 4 years regarding Russia/Ukraine war. He has been giving extremely reliable and amazing info and knows ins and outs of Russian tech. As of now this is the most independent, balanced commentary on everything that happened in this war. And this is coming from a Russian allied perspective, so he would be no fan of Pakistan either. His commentary on Indian air force's failures is hilarious, and the comments are even more hilarious, especially India's strategy, at 6:35 :ROFLMAO: , as well as his outlook on Indian AF at 1:30.

This is really worth listening to, as what an outsider tending to be Indian ally and who knows things more than most of us do, sees it as.
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I'm just watching this now...he's claimed that the PAF used it's "Bombardier Global 6000 upgraded by Turkey" wtf?! The bloke doesn't have a clue what he's talking about! Like a lot with these YouTubers, they don't do enough fundamental research, they just look at other social media content and come up with their own crap.
 
Master Chief said:
Let us be very clear. "The Uighur thing" is simple propaganda that the world and the Uighurs themselves have evolved beyond.

It is worth remembering that China, as an atheist country, does not give supremacy to any religious group. Their government rejects any one group claiming historical ascendancy over another.

In practical terms, this means no dharmic mandir will be built over a ransacked mosque in China because of some 1000 year hindutva itch that needed satisfying.

Meanwhile, the self-declared "Secular Republic of India" is obsessed with replacing historic mosques with grotesque politically-affiliated mandirs, sanctioned by the pseudoscientists of national archaeological institutions.
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I would like for India to not care about mazhabi matters at the state/political level, I really really would.

The trouble is, our people are overwhelmingly mazhabi, so politicians have to, and maybe they feel strongly about it themselves too.

With Ayodhya it was a particularly touchy thing because its supposed to be the birthplace of Ram Ji, and they say a temple had been demolished to create the structure.

Bad scene overall, but the Muslims got a nice new mosque and a lot of money to build it so not like they were shafted entirely, compensation bhi mila na.
 
Sharma Ji said:
of course the BJP would not have organized such a rally, duh !

but there was a broad section of society there, not just IMs, all left leaning people, including many many Hindus, Christians and others.

and there were political leaders from the Congress, and other left parties, the communists were out in force.

we ain't China, we can protest as much as we want, for or against whomever or whatever.
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Most people in this world can't resist those vanity things, what they need to be born is the right to live, and then defend their human rights without affecting other people, China's rapid development can prove that our route is right, of course I don't think it's perfect, because there is no perfect society, we are also fighting corruption, this is a big problem, and we are also trying to get rid of those who don't work for us civilians, you also know that people are easy to change when they have power, even if they disguise well, there will always be a group of people who are corrupted , so everybody is working hard, what about you India? Isn't it trying to carry some Chinese manufacturing in cooperation with the United States in South Asia? Can hurting others help yourselves? The tariff war between China and the United States, your government really said that it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for you, and when your underlying capital is controlled by the consortium, you will know that the people at the bottom of your side will never be able to turn over
 
r3alist said:
Are you not concerned that too much cooperation and allyship will subvert Indians national interest and sovereignty?
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The Jew, apart from controlling all the money in the world also runs the USA. Jew se panga nahi lene ka, the clever bania way binnus karne ka :D
 
Michael said:
There is a rule in the ancient Chinese military tactics that has existed for thousands of years: "穷寇莫追 Don't chase after a desperate enemy."

It means that when you have already achieved a clear victory, don't chase after the fleeing enemy.
If you try to chase an enemy who is already desperate, he will fight you desperately without any scruples. At this time, your losses will be very great.
Let them escape in despair. They will live the rest of their lives in despair and pain, and have no courage to continue fighting you.

Obviously, in this India-Pakistan air war, the IAF suffered a desperate blow. The Indian government desperately blocked the news and constantly fabricated lies to deceive the Indian people in an attempt to save its last face.
If we publish all the evidence at this time, the desperate Indian government will be forced to go to war with Pakistan under strong public pressure. This is not good news for Pakistan. Of course, this is not the result China wants. Give the Indian government a chance to brag and save some face.

Remember, the IAF, who really understood this battle, knows very well the capabilities of the opponents they encountered. If it happens again, they will recall the fear of this war in their hearts.

Do you understand these strategies?

After the China-Indian conflict in the Kalwan Valley, the Chinese government did not immediately release all the evidence. We let the Indian government brag. However, the Indian frontline soldiers knew very well the strength of their opponents. So, when the Modi government allowed the frontline soldiers to shoot, no Indian soldier dared to fire first. They knew very well in their hearts. If they fired first, after one bullet, they would be greeted by a hellish blow.

This photo has only appeared on Chinese social media in recent days. It has been 5 years.
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The Pakistanis are not Chinese. I don't buy this crap all the time that "we don't want to reveal because we don't want to humiliate the Indians" bullshit!! Since when have the Indians and Pakistanis ever hesitated to humiliate each other!! The Pakistanis should, and would, jump at any opportunity to humiliate the Indians with evidence of the damage they inflicted on the Indians with their Fatah missiles strikes. Have a look at the PAF press briefing, they utterly humiliated the IAF with cockpit radio Comms of the Indians, they revealed GPS jamming of the brahmos missile strikes etc. please don't use this garbage argument that the Pakistanis would not "humiliate" the Indians, it's getting tired and it's meaningless.
 
Baibers_1260 said:
@Sharma Ji , We Indians aspire to be like China in economic and military clout and like Israel in its relationship with the USA.
Neither aspirations have been fulfilled at this time.

The irony is that India is part of the anti-China Quad alliance and is also part of BRICS.
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Nothing wrong in aspiring for greatness.. ki kabhi nahi hona is another matter. Sangharsh must be do still !
 
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