PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

Michael said:
Modern fighter jets have many functional subdivisions. Often, the air forces of large countries will have different fighters with different functions, and they form a large formation of fighters that work in concert with each other.
Smaller air forces, on the other hand, usually have trouble affording such a large expenditure, and they favor multi-mission fighters.

For example: the IAF's Rafale is a typical multi-mission fighter. In fact, most of the European countries prefer multi-mission fighters.
The same is true for the PAF; the J-10C was originally an air superiority fighter, but its foreign trade version (PAF version) became a multi-mission fighter. I personally don't agree with this choice of PAF. I think PAF should have opted for a purely air superiority version of the J-10CE.

Being able to do everything also means not being able to do anything best.

However, PAF has opted for a multi-mission version of the J-10CE. Well, when PAF is procuring the J-35, I hope they go for the pure air superiority version to form a combination with the multi-mission version of the J-10CE.


All 5G fighters are very expensive to maintain. It's a price that has to be paid.

China can do it:
Same class of fighters, we have the lowest price.
Same price fighter, we have the best performance.


The two threads on J-35 in the PDF are very detailed and accurate. I suggest you go back and read about it before making a judgment.
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We need a jet or a long range bomber that can use stand-off weapons from our soil and hit Indian airbases. Do you suggest any jet or bomber that will do that for us? I know Chinese have so many jets. There must be solution as well. I think during recent mini war, we realized that we can’t target their airbases. In 2019, mirages was used for stand-off weapons but whether they crossed the border or not is not known. This time, we haven’t seen mirages using stand-off. It means we are going deep inside Pakistan and avoiding nearby border areas because of the range of Indian missiles. Same is true for iaf as well. Some of them came closer to border and were targeted by Paf. Problem is still there. How to target Indian airbases using stand-off ? Which jet and which stand-off weapon because you need greater range because of going deep in order to avoid a lock on.
 
Arsalan45 said:
We need a jet or a long range bomber that can use stand-off weapons from our soil and hit Indian airbases. Do you suggest any jet or bomber that will do that for us? I know Chinese have so many jets. There must be solution as well. I think during recent mini war, we realized that we can’t target their airbases. In 2019, mirages was used for stand-off weapons but whether they crossed the border or not is not known. This time, we haven’t seen mirages using stand-off. It means we are going deep inside Pakistan and avoiding nearby border areas because of the range of Indian missiles. Same is true for iaf as well. Some of them came closer to border and were targeted by Paf. Problem is still there. How to target Indian airbases using stand-off ? Which jet and which stand-off weapon because you need greater range because of going deep in order to avoid a lock on.
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This is the thread for the relevant discussion about PAF's J-35. Your question is not relevant to the thread. If you do want to know more, start a discussion in the appropriate thread.
 
najamiqbal said:
Oh bhai, let’s clear one thing up real quick — I didn’t roll into America clutching a visa lottery like it was a scratch card. I came through the front door: U.S. university, hard-earned degree, and a career built on merit, not memes. You're out here ranting about “Whitman’s table” like you’ve been dining with foreign policy elites — meanwhile, your entire argument sounds like it was drafted at a chai dhaba during load shedding. Just because you’re in the U.S. doesn’t mean you got promoted to geopolitical analyst by default. Location ≠ logic. And about China? They didn't send us leftover slogans — they showed up with roads, ports, power plants, and vetoes. That's more than we can say for your Instagram-friendly “brotherly allies.” So next time you want to sound informed, come with facts — not half-baked one-liners and chocolate metaphors. Otherwise, the only crumbs you’ll find are the ones falling from real debates.
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Listen carefully ingrate little smarty pants......our nuclear program was bankrolled by Saudis , a good chunk of military equipment that we bought from china was bankrolled by Saudis...... Now , shove your credentials in your bottom orifice and take a hike ...this is my last post to you.
 
mythbuster said:
Listen carefully ingrate little smarty pants......our nuclear program was bankrolled by Saudis , a good chunk of military equipment that we bought from china was bankrolled by Saudis...... Now , shove your credentials in your bottom orifice and take a hike ...this is my last post to you.
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Relax, bhai. No need to go DEFCON 1 over a simple point. I said I studied in the U.S. and worked my way up — not that I wrote the Geneva Conventions. You brought up Whitman’s table like it’s some deep diplomatic metaphor, and I just asked what it even means — calm down, not everything is a battlefield. And about China? Say what you want, but they showed up when it mattered — with UNSC vetoes, infrastructure, and real-time support. Not just “moral concern” tweets like some of the others. You might be in the West too, and that’s great. But don’t act like geography automatically uploads geopolitical wisdom to your brain. We all got opinions — I just prefer mine with a bit more logic and a bit less volume. If you’re attempting to win a debate by mocking credentials or throwing around “bottom orifice” remarks, you’ve already lost the argument. Education and experience aren’t flexes — they’re tools to speak with clarity. Something this conversation sorely needs. Anyway, all good. You do your thing. But next time, let’s keep it a discussion — not a meltdown.
 
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Hi,

@Deino Listen to Sahni---after 20 minute mark---.

He is acknowledging china will give the best equipment to pakistan---the TOP LINE EQUIPMENT---.

China already gave the topline equipment that pakistan asked for---.

Extended range PL15---topline J10CE---& a few other items.

No one has talked about the navy's type 054's yet---.
 
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Hi,

@Deino Listen to Sahni---after 20 minute mark---.

He is acknowledging china will give the best equipment to pakistan---the TOP LINE EQUIPMENT---.

China already gave the topline equipment that pakistan asked for---.

Extended range PL15---topline J10CE---& a few other items.

No one has talked about the navy's type 054's yet---.
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Pravin Sawhney is not an authoritative source on Chinese military matters. He has zero credible inside sources about the relationship between China Pakistan.

He's merely an analyst that makes  predictions and is often wrong, taken from online fanpages.
 
Considering our limited airspace and strategic depth. I think 60 J-10C are good enough with already existing Jf-17s both BVR capable while F-16s can be used as base defence for next 7/8 years and should be retired and replaced by JFs…. Low cost high performance has always been key to our AF success..
Because we already have tech edge over enemy, I don’t think we should rush for J-35 given only if we needed to balance the equation..
 
Rationalist said:
Pravin Sawhney is not an authoritative source on Chinese military matters. He has zero credible inside sources about the relationship between China Pakistan.

He's merely an analyst that makes  predictions and is often wrong, taken from online fanpages.
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Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. You don't need any " credible inside source " to make this analysis---.

It is all about the knowledge---how you can assess the situation and what you know about human psyche---.

I don't have any inside source but if you read enough---and UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING WRITTEN---you will find find out china has no other option but to give pakistan best of its weapons to field test them against a monstrous enemy in a real battle scenario.

As much as you can test your weapons during exercise---there always is that---WHAT IF FACTOR at the back of your mind.
 
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MastanKhan said:
Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. You don't need any " credible inside source " to make this analysis---.

It is all about the knowledge---how you can assess the situation and what you know about human psyche---.

I don't have any inside source but if you read enough---and UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING WRITTEN---you will find find out china has no other option but to give pakistan best of its weapons to field test them against a monstrous enemy in a real battle scenario.
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Actually, yes you do, you cannot claim to know about a military's procurement timeline and the exact nature of the specs they are receiving without credible sources, and more importantly if your reference is purely online fanboys and hopeful guesswork despite hard facts not even aligning with your predictions then your credibility and word is worthless.
 
Deino said:
By the way ... interesting rumour from one of the big shrimps: The export version of the J-35A has indeed already flown and the launch customer is definitely NOT Pakistan!
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My guess would be Egypt

Has previous military relationship, Egypt has the Israeli threat to deal with which includes 5th gen F35, their current capability can't compete vs Israels.

I would still think this is years away.
 
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