Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Pakistan and India’s aviation authorities said on Friday they would extend an airspace ban on each other’s airlines, after the worst violence between the nuclear-armed rivals in decades. It comes a month after the deadly April 22 attack on Indian tourists in Kashmir, which sparked a four-day military conflict between India and Pakistan. More than 70 people were killed in missile, drone and artillery fire until a ceasefire was announced on May 10.
 
Several IAF ALCM strikes planned towards Kamra (PAF Minhas) got canceled because of ceasefire talks, as per IAF officials.

Lol no. They were taken out by AD. I know this from inside. My relative work in Kamra airbase. India launched many brahmos as ceasefire talks were going on and before Trump announcement.

Coward baniya always stabbing in the back. Or attacking in the night. This is all you have.
 
Current look at the neighborhood as of 1555 MST (my time zone). Red line (no pun intended) I established at the beginning still very obvious on the Indian side of the border. It's BAU and more so on the Pakistan side:

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Interestingly, and I did not mention it before, the aircraft in the "zone" have been flying that narrow corridor since things quieted down a bit over there. Nothing to the north or south of that line. Intentional to me unless someone has better information.

I noticed that too, well observed.
 
Lol no. They were taken out by AD. I know this from inside. My relative work in Kamra airbase. India launched many brahmos as ceasefire talks were going on and before Trump announcement.

Coward baniya always stabbing in the back. Or attacking in the night. This is all you have.
Doubtful since no wreckage was found near Kamra.
 
To what I was saying earlier, Jaishanker's balancing act of foreign relations and keeping domestic BJP audience happy is falling apart....

Dr. Jaishankar’s Doctrine of Denial: When ‘Your Problem is Yours’ Backfires on the Global Stage​

-By: A Special Correspondent

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(Lanka-e-News -25.May.2025, 11.00 PM) There’s a certain diplomatic grace in saying absolutely nothing of substance with an air of philosophical grandeur. Dr. S. Jaishankar, India’s eternally unflappable External Affairs Minister, has turned this art into an Olympic event. But alas, even the best tightrope walkers occasionally wobble—and Dr. Jaishankar is now dangling, awkwardly, between Washington’s fury and New Delhi’s pride.

At the heart of the debacle is his once-celebrated, now-regretted foreign policy mantra: “Your problem is yours. Our problem is ours.” Simple. Stoic. And, as it turns out, spectacularly shortsighted.

Enter: The Phalgam Incident—a brief but blistering cross-border confrontation with Pakistan that began with the usual diplomatic muscle-flexing and ended, rather abruptly, with a ceasefire. But not just any ceasefire. No. This one, according to several well-placed American officials, was brokered by none other than former US President Donald J. Trump in a late-night call marathon that reportedly included threats, flattery, and an ill-timed anecdote about golf.

Trump’s Trumpeting, Jaishankar’s Sulking​

President Trump, never one to miss an opportunity to insert himself into international headlines (even post-presidency), claimed he personally “defused the Indo-Pak bomb situation.” Naturally, in Trumpian tradition, he added that both Modi and Shehbaz Sherieff, “thanked him profusely,” and that “no one ever saw such beautiful diplomacy.”

Except Dr. Jaishankar.

India’s top diplomat, in a manner that can only be described as passive-aggressive grandmastery, publicly downplayed Trump’s role, stating that the ceasefire was “a mutual understanding between India and Pakistan’s military leaderships” and “not orchestrated by any external power.”

That statement, seemingly crafted to resemble a standard diplomatic shrug, landed in Washington like a diplomatic slap. The State Department, not known for issuing press releases in response to foreign ministers trying to ghost their President, released a rare clarification: “The United States played a constructive role in facilitating dialogue.” Translation: Stop lying, we have the call logs.

Diplomatic Fallout & Business Backlash​

In an ideal world, this would have been a mere blip in the perpetual soap opera of international diplomacy. But India, it seems, has found itself locked in a PR war not just with Islamabad, but inadvertently with Washington.

The American Chamber of Commerce in India, otherwise happy to sip chai and ink deals, is now privately lobbying Prime Minister Narendra Modi to “reassess” Dr. Jaishankar’s position. One particularly blunt American CEO reportedly told a Modi aide: “Your man insulted our man. Fix it—or we’ll fix our investments elsewhere.”

Business leaders in Mumbai and Delhi are quietly echoing the sentiment. With Indo-US trade talks stalling and murmurs of a delay in semiconductor collaborations, Jaishankar’s bravado is starting to cost rupees. And when the rupees bleed, the knives are unsheathed.

Modi’s Dilemma: To Sack or Not to Sack?​

For Prime Minister Modi, this is now a matter of managing egos—both foreign and domestic. Jaishankar is no lightweight. A former diplomat to China and the US, he commands respect within the foreign service and among nationalist circles. But no one is indispensable—not when they're making Donald Trump look like the grown-up in the room.

Rumours swirl in South Block that Modi is “reviewing all aspects” of his foreign policy team. Translation: someone’s head may roll, and Jaishankar’s is sticking up the highest.

Insiders say that the Prime Minister was “deeply displeased” with how the ceasefire narrative unfolded, especially the fact that it allowed Pakistan and China to frame the skirmish as a joint victory over Indian aggression—and let Trump claim the moral high ground. A diplomatic triple-whammy.

The Doctrine Dilemma​

It’s worth revisiting Jaishankar’s doctrine of “problem compartmentalisation.” In the drawing rooms of Delhi, it once sounded like Confucius with a PhD. But global diplomacy, especially in Asia, doesn’t allow for philosophical detachment when missiles are flying and economies are tethered.

The world, as it turns out, cares deeply about everyone else’s problems—especially when those problems involve two nuclear neighbours with a shared history of hostility and hubris.


By rejecting the idea that the US had any influence in the ceasefire, Dr. Jaishankar wasn’t just diminishing Trump—he was also telling the West: We don’t need you. Unfortunately, the West controls the boardrooms that fund the tech corridors of Bengaluru and the mega defence deals signed in Washington hotel lobbies.

A Growing Credibility Crisis​

Perhaps the most ironic twist is that, in trying to preserve India’s strategic autonomy, Jaishankar may have damaged its strategic credibility. Western allies now ask: if India can’t even acknowledge assistance from its supposed strategic partner, how dependable is that partnership?

British officials, too, are said to be quietly bemused. One diplomat at the Foreign Office quipped, “If Jaishankar thinks telling the truth is too inconvenient, perhaps we should stop sharing intelligence as well. After all, our problem is ours, no?”

Jaishankar, the Philosopher Without a Plan?​

There’s no denying Dr. Jaishankar’s intellect. But in today’s hyper-connected world, high-minded detachment is not diplomacy—it’s denial. The line between preserving national dignity and self-sabotaging credibility is a thin one, and it appears Dr. Jaishankar has done a triple somersault off it.

As Modi prepares for yet another round of foreign summits, he now carries an additional burden: explaining why his foreign minister insists on rewriting ceasefire history while everyone else is trying to avoid World War III.

In the end, perhaps the most damning verdict comes not from Trump or Biden, but from an Indian industrialist overheard in a Delhi golf club:
"Next time, let Jaishankar philosophise at an ashram. Let someone else do the diplomacy."
 
Doubtful since no wreckage was found near Kamra.


You indians also claimed that you are going to do to Pakistan what the israelis are doing to the Palestinians in Gaza. The whole world KNOWS exactly how that turned out for indian kind......... :cool: :cool::cool::cool:
 
Virtually every Western media outlet talked about destruction of three planes.......
Mean while media in India including the Hindu and the Wire were forced to remove any mention of planes being shot down.......

Since then all you hear is a complete silence.....



Not accurate. The rport is that
1) IAF used Laksya-PTA and Banshee to simulate signatures of bigger aircraft (Rafale etc,)
2) PAF shot at them thinking they were the real thing and assumed they had been shot when the missiles did hit them
3) After this volley the Rafale quickly moved in, lined up and released the bombs

No publication was given a view of this tactic until the war was 'over'. The wire and hindu removed their articles after being given confidential briefings.
 
Clowns, boycott of Turkey has led to Turks actually coming out and stating they intend tio cooperate with Pak even more closely. One thing Turkish people do not take lightly is threats....

Also receiving Pak PM at Dolmabache Palace in Istanbul and not usual offices in Ankara and pic of walking hand in hand sent a very assertive message to the world.

 
Not accurate. The rport is that
1) IAF used Laksya-PTA and Banshee to simulate signatures of bigger aircraft (Rafale etc,)
2) PAF shot at them thinking they were the real thing and assumed they had been shot when the missiles did hit them
3) After this volley the Rafale quickly moved in, lined up and released the bombs

No publication was given a view of this tactic until the war was 'over'. The wire and hindu removed their articles after being given confidential briefings.
Sir by any chance did you also strap ejection seats with Brahmos to give more signature of an airplane?
 

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