Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Also since we are talking about Indian armed forces or state being the beacon of truth, this is what Clinton wrote.




// Mr. TOWNS. Mr. Speaker, recently, former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright wrote a book called The Mighty and the Almighty. The
introduction was written by former President Bill Clinton. In his
introduction, President Clinton wrote, ``During my visit to India in
2000, some Hindu militants decided to vent their outrage by murdering
38 Sikhs in cold blood. If I hadn't made the trip, the victims would
probably still be alive. If I hadn't made the trip because I feared
what militants might do, I couldn't have done my job as president of
the United States.''
President Clinton places the blame squarely on Hindu militants, not
on the so-called Kashmiri Muslims that the Indian government tried to
blame for the massacre. In 2002, the Washington Times reported that the
government finally admitted its responsibility and admitted that the
evidence that it used to pin the blame on Kashmiris was false.//

And till today Indian govt and media blame it on pakistan.

There is a reason why i was against PA and PAF calling Indian clowns as professional army. They are not anymore, they are just the extension of their hindutva overlord Modi.
 
In his latest speech, a defeated and disgraced Hindutva terrorist Modi is shamelessly pretending as a winner but, in fact, he is licking his wounds.

Modi in reality has resorted to making appeals to Pakistani people to come forward and act. That is, help Modi, but against whom? Aganist Pakistan and in favor of India? Does it make sense?

It seems Pak military has kicked Modi's head a little too hard. That idiot doesn't know what the heck he is saying. Modi has been turned into laughingstock of the whole world.
 
Vapnope said:
You are saying your side has showed proof. And by Your side you mean your armed forces, where is the proof of saab 2000, c130, f16s and JF17s? And again where is the proof of surgical strikes and F16 that was downed by iaf in 2019. All these claims are coming from your armed forces not from some random poster.

Go on provide the proof.

Also maybe a word on the press freedom index ranking.
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Can you show official media release by India making those claims? I haven’t seen any such release.

Assuming that such a claim was made, I wouldn’t believe the entirety of it. Such statements are always laced with lies. It was done by ISPR too.

Most of the castles in thin air are built by fanboys.

There is a difference between, weapon fired on a target and weapon successfully hitting the target.

Was the weapon dropped accurately, was it not intercepted etc can make all the difference.

Weapon hitting a target can be confirmed credibly with many forms of undeniable proof. Exact nature of damage can’t be claimed by the side firing the weapon, but accepted by the other side.
No one accepts the exact nature of damage to themselves. Why give credit to the adversary?
 
New so far unreported in media strike on PAF Murid revelation by Damien Symon Sir.

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Vkdindian1 said:
Can you show official media release by India making those claims? I haven’t seen any such release.

Assuming that such a claim was made, I wouldn’t believe the entirety of it. As such statements are laced with lies. It was done by ISPR too.

Most of the castles in thin air are built by fanboys.

There is a difference between, weapon fired on a target and weapon successfully hitting the target.

Was the weapon dropped accurately, was it not intercepted etc can make all the difference.

Weapon hitting a target can be confirmed credibly with many forms of undeniable proof. Exact nature of damage can’t be claimed by the side firing the weapon, but accepted by the other side.
No one accepts the exact nature of damage to themselves. Why give credit to the adversary?
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But you don't watch Indian media.
 
Vapnope said:
Also since we are talking about Indian armed forces or state being the beacon of truth, this is what Clinton wrote.




// Mr. TOWNS. Mr. Speaker, recently, former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright wrote a book called The Mighty and the Almighty. The
introduction was written by former President Bill Clinton. In his
introduction, President Clinton wrote, ``During my visit to India in
2000, some Hindu militants decided to vent their outrage by murdering
38 Sikhs in cold blood. If I hadn't made the trip, the victims would
probably still be alive. If I hadn't made the trip because I feared
what militants might do, I couldn't have done my job as president of
the United States.''
President Clinton places the blame squarely on Hindu militants, not
on the so-called Kashmiri Muslims that the Indian government tried to
blame for the massacre. In 2002, the Washington Times reported that the
government finally admitted its responsibility and admitted that the
evidence that it used to pin the blame on Kashmiris was false.//

And till today Indian govt and media blame it on pakistan.

There is a reason why i was against PA and PAF calling Indian clowns as professional army. They are not anymore, they are just the extension of their hindutva overlord Modi.
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in 2003 (or 2004 I cant remember exactly), there was a famous incident where several villagers in AJK were violently be****ded by Indian Army...

I am very balanced and openly willing to talk to any sane person and was under the impression that all hindus are not violent and muslims are wrong.

But no saar, i was totally wrong, this series of events with constant verbal engagements on even proven facts have proven me wrong... I do tend to keep bias out of the way, but it does not work with these hindu people whom i have seen here.

now I can say with some uncertainty, that incident, of AJK could have been done by them!
 
Arsalan45 said:
I hope I am wrong. Just want Chinese tanks at the right time and before it’s too late. There is a hint of another round of clash before this winter war. Indians are very clever and now they are emotionally attached to our Kashmir which is unbelievable. So they factored out one thing during this conflict but not the other. They will bombard Paf with brahmos and likely ground them so Paf factor is now gone for them. It’s now our strategy to find ways to make sure that Paf will remain operational despite brahmos strikes.

Chinese factor. They are worried about joint Chinese pakistani counterattack. This is why they will start it in winter so that no help from Chinese will reach on time specially manpower.
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I wrote the same thing somewhere in the forum. the next time Indians come back, they will most probably start with a preemptive attack on PAF bases to nutralize them as much as possible before going after the actual target. and most likely they will open up the Naval front, where they are significantly ahead of Pak Navy as off now
 
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Vkdindian1 said:
Can you show official media release by India making those claims? I haven’t seen any such release.

Assuming that such a claim was made, I wouldn’t believe the entirety of it. Such statements are always laced with lies. It was done by ISPR too.

Most of the castles in thin air are built by fanboys.

There is a difference between, weapon fired on a target and weapon successfully hitting the target.

Was the weapon dropped accurately, was it not intercepted etc can make all the difference.

Weapon hitting a target can be confirmed credibly with many forms of undeniable proof. Exact nature of damage can’t be claimed by the side firing the weapon, but accepted by the other side.
No one accepts the exact nature of damage to themselves. Why give credit to the adversary?
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If you are not even aware of what your side has officially claimed why are you even arguing here?
 
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If CM 400 was used, then the missile trajectory is wrong. CM 400 nearly dives down in its last approach, especially for the max range.
 
Assault Rifle said:
New so far unreported in media strike on PAF Murid revelation by Damien Symon Sir.

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Yep 18 F16s, 12 JF17s, 2 nuclear submarines, 400 paf personnel, saab, ZDK, DA 20, spada 2000 all destroyed. Conclusive evidence saaar.
 
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