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Should have shot it down (Atlantique Payback) and kept quite.
We were in state of war and were conducting defensive Naval Operations.

If wanted we could have hit the P-8i but again showed our restraint God knows for what National interests & benefits
 
We were in state of war and were conducting defensive Naval Operations.

If wanted we could have hit the P-8i but again showed our restraint God knows for what National interests & benefits
This restraint will come back to bite us where the sun don't shine very soon.
N when the bindians get the opertunity they will neither miss nor forgive.
Then when the P8 is responsible for the death n destruction of PN assets then the person in charge who gave the order to "stand down" should be lined up against the wall n shot.
Same with the forgiving PAF command.

We had our chance n we blew it, aa we were feeling magnanimous (as we are use to 100s of our country men dieing, so 30 odd was notjing), now the enemy is going to take its pound of flesh without showing mercy.
 
This restraint will come back to bite us where the sun don't shine very soon.
N when the bindians get the opertunity they will neither miss nor forgive.
Then when the P8 is responsible for the death n destruction of PN assets then the person in charge who gave the order to "stand down" should be lined up against the wall n shot.
Same with the forgiving PAF command.

We had our chance n we blew it, aa we were feeling magnanimous (as we are use to 100s of our country men dieing, so 30 odd was notjing), now the enemy is going to take its pound of flesh without showing mercy.
Exactly ....

Our country was under attack & they were showing restraint, our children were dying they were showing restraint ....

I don't know if they have forget their duty is to fight and kill the enemy not to show restraint.

This policy is actually giving India opportunity to initiate a d ends the events of it's liking as per their convenience and at their will.

This is the new normal which India is trying to establish and our policy makers with their policy if restraint are unknowingly abetting it.
 
Exactly ....

Our country was under attack & they were showing restraint, our children were dying they were showing restraint ....

I don't know if they have forget their duty is to fight and kill the enemy not to show restraint.

This policy is actually giving India opportunity to initiate a d ends the events of it's liking as per their convenience and at their will.

This is the new normal which India is trying to establish and our policy makers with their policy if restraint are unknowingly abetting it.

The decision makers need to review their decisions to see what they could do better next time. It is Pakistan's restraint that allowed India to feel comfortable enough to both initiate the conflict, but also, with each day, continue to escalate it up the ladder by taking the initiative as it was not receiving any resistance. Even ISPR made the comment of India going mad, because it was outside their decision making cycles to "understand" what India was doing. It was only when Pakistan actually responded that India called it off.
 
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Exactly ....

Our country was under attack & they were showing restraint, our children were dying they were showing restraint ....

I don't know if they have forget their duty is to fight and kill the enemy not to show restraint.

This policy is actually giving India opportunity to initiate a d ends the events of it's liking as per their convenience and at their will.

This is the new normal which India is trying to establish and our policy makers with their policy if restraint are unknowingly abetting it.
Our leaders at the top are bikao mall. Had it not been for the presence of the air chief there would have been no May 7th or our response on the 10th.

Indians openly say that nawaz sharif is their biggesr assett....n the silence of the sharif family during this skirmish just proves it.
 
This restraint will come back to bite us where the sun don't shine very soon.
N when the bindians get the opertunity they will neither miss nor forgive.
Then when the P8 is responsible for the death n destruction of PN assets then the person in charge who gave the order to "stand down" should be lined up against the wall n shot.
Same with the forgiving PAF command.


We had our chance n we blew it, aa we were feeling magnanimous (as we are use to 100s of our country men dieing, so 30 odd was notjing), now the enemy is going to take its pound of flesh without showing mercy.
Hi,

So---what it shows is that the Paf and Pak navy are great fighters---great warriors overall---but there is a COMPONENT of COWARDICE in their makeup that they cannot give the DEATH BLOW to the enemy in a timely manner---.

Look at AVM Arshad---a nice guy---he can push the button---be he cannot cut the head of the enemy off---.

Look at all our general and air marshalls and admirals on the TV interviews---a nice guys---all can push the button---

But none has show the ability to GIVE OUT THE FINAL DEATH BLOW---.

THEY ALL WILL ALLOW THE ENEMY TO WALK AWAY---.
 
Hi,

So---what it shows is that the Paf and Pak navy are great fighters---great warriors overall---but there is a COMPONENT of COWARDICE in their makeup that they cannot give the DEATH BLOW to the enemy in a timely manner---.

Look at AVM Arshad---a nice guy---he can push the button---be he cannot cut the head of the enemy off---.

Look at all our general and air marshalls and admirals on the TV interviews---a nice guys---all can push the button---

But none has show the ability to GIVE OUT THE FINAL DEATH BLOW---.

THEY ALL WILL ALLOW THE ENEMY TO WALK AWAY---.
Its not a component of cowardice, rather weak government's directives. in 2019, IK was very clear he said we will not thin k about retaliation, we will retaliate and so every one was very clear. This time there was not clear stance from Gov. and I think had india not attacked our bases we would have not done anything besides t initial air war.
 
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Hi,

So---what it shows is that the Paf and Pak navy are great fighters---great warriors overall---but there is a COMPONENT of COWARDICE in their makeup that they cannot give the DEATH BLOW to the enemy in a timely manner---.

Look at AVM Arshad---a nice guy---he can push the button---be he cannot cut the head of the enemy off---.

Look at all our general and air marshalls and admirals on the TV interviews---a nice guys---all can push the button---

But none has show the ability to GIVE OUT THE FINAL DEATH BLOW---.

THEY ALL WILL ALLOW THE ENEMY TO WALK AWAY---.
Sir jee ur absolutely right. The other day I was watching this discussion between an ex Indian army officer who happens to be one of the few sane voices out of indian and Gen lodhi.....I was shocked at the way our gen. Was going out of his way so as not to offend the Indian.
A very sad and worring state of affairs
 
Exactly ....

Our country was under attack & they were showing restraint, our children were dying they were showing restraint ....

I don't know if they have forget their duty is to fight and kill the enemy not to show restraint.

This policy is actually giving India opportunity to initiate a d ends the events of it's liking as per their convenience and at their will.

This is the new normal which India is trying to establish and our policy makers with their policy if restraint are unknowingly abetting it.
Like napoleon said " an army of lions led by a dog will fight like a dog......while an army of dogs ked by a lion will fight like a lion."
So the dog at the top was hasatant n scared from the start....n wt we achieved is a miracle.
 
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