Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Areesh said:
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Mukerian city is in Indian Punjab.

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Guynextdoor said:
Because the only thing that can be said of the war is what the IAF said- 'we have taken down PAF jets. the debris is on the other side, we will not comment further'.

That is what a professional force can say. But if you are interested in propoganda one can claim 2 or 6 or 20 jets.

There is one IAF attribution that I'm very convinced of-

EYRIE is a large slow flying jet. S 400 shot down a Saab eyrie at distance of 300+ KMS. If what went down was not an Eyrie then it would have been a civian plane and Pak would have gone to town with it.

So yes- IAF now holds the world record for the single longest distance air defence kill in history when it shot down an Eyrie at a ditance of 300+ KMS with an S 400.

France Air industry is bankrupt-

1) becuase it got a deal for Rafale M for 3.5 Billion last week
2) because it will definitely get a deal for additional 3.5 billion for Rafale M

3) becuase France will now definitely get an order for 100+ jets about 15 billion for remaining MRCA they have been lobbying for 15 years

All put togther this war has set up the frech air industry for another 20 years - both manufacture and spares.
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You might be understating, most likely you shot a F-22 Raptor and the wreckage mysteriously fell in the Bermuda triangle so that's why Pakistanis can't locate it yet
 
Baibers_1260 said:
it's curious why we communicate with enemy nationals or respond to their taunts.
I understand that in principle this being an opem forum we allow space to these enemy nationals, but we don't have to respond to their drivel. I am just putting them on my ignore list.
No where in the world has such so-called courtsey been given to an enemy. It's interesting to see other instances of how nations grant enemy nationals taking space,
Simple answer is they don't.

Pre-internet era :
- In World War 2 radio listener phone call in comments were stopped by both the Allies and Axis powers
- Cold war radio listener call ins were non-existent for the first thirty years and only began to ease in the late 1980s.

Today:
- North and South Koreans don't share views in on-line forums,
- There is no interaction between Indians and Chinese on defence forums. Even Sino-Defense (dot) com has banned Indian members.
- Simioarly there is no interaction between Arabs and Israelis, Indians and Bangladeshis, Russians and Ukrainians,
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Baibers_1260 said:
The once much vaunted "Jolly-Good-Show old-chap" residual British era secularism of the Indian Armed Forces, as represented by Field Marshal Manekshaw is just a memory. The Koi Hai chota peg club is gone for good.

It's a good thing the Indian Army has de-secularized. for the following reasons
- It would be interesting to see how the Sikh and Naga regiments view the changed environment.
- A reliance on superstition such as lemons and chillies helps degrade professional competence .
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These indians truly are the descendants of the lost city of Atlantis as they claim.........a true super, master race........ :rolleyes:
 
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side-winder said:
Yes, somehow, all the videos of missiles struck inside pakistan were almost available instantaneously but not a single video of "shot down" jets. Then there are your friends here claiming, IAF never intended to engage PAF and never did as their targets were only so called terror infrastructures.

You know exactly when a jet is hit. A blip gone missing on radar. A sqawk 7700 broadcast followed by SAR helo approaching. Afterall, "losses are part of combat" right?

So, on one hand, IAF refuses to share which jets they shot as they were in combat scenerio but were quick to share which targets they destroyed on ground. On the other, you shot saab erieye at 300 KM with S400. GOD knows where. In your wild dreams i guess.

IAF didn't even clarify which type of aircraft they shot. When asked to atleast tell which type of jets. Your AM simply said not to put words into his mouth. Just some "high-tech" aircraft. Maybe he was just talking about couple of drones to save the embarrassment 😂

IAF's indirect admission of losses coupled with onground solid videos of crash, testimonies of locals and western sources including the very french confirming losses aren't enough convincing for you but an imaginary story about erieye shot down at 300 Km by S400 with LUL evidence coupled with IAF's refusal to even comment on which jets they shot. Very convincing for you.

Bravo. Keep going.

P.S on a serious note, you guys need to hang your guys in hotseats of airforce. Pathetic performance, same as 2019, with so much public taxpayers money being spent.
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Sir

You can take a horse to water but cant force it to drink.
 
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