PA MLRS, Self Propelled and towed artillery [BM-11, Fatah-I GMLRS, Fatah-II] - News, Updates & Discussions

What Pakistanis and Indians say on forums doesn't usually translate to the actual strategic tit-for-tat that happens between Pakistan and India.

I don't think Fatah-II is meant for S400s. Fatah-II follows a mostly predictable path, easily intercepted by S400. I doubt Pakistan can launch enough Fatah-II's to saturate an S400 battery. Our planners certainly know this. And they know that the Indians know it too.

I believe dealing with S400 will be a purely PAF mission, for which they must have developed the tools and tactics.
Nice prediction on the last part, but turns out they ended up using the CM-400AKG quasi-ballistic weapon, which is likely very similar in flight characteristics to the Fatah-II itself, which is interesting. 🤔 (Possible that Fatah-II might even be derived from it or from a similar Chinese missile).
 
Reports are that it’s dual pulse. Plus, it’s confirmed that it has a glide vehicle, so it’s not a conventional ballistic missile.

I am quite confident that it’s going to lay the groundwork for HGV.
Isn't that how most quasi-ballistic missiles function though? With a depressed trajectory from the traditional ballistic trajectory but the actual maneuverability being limited.

I find it difficult to believe Pakistan has come up with a distinct 'supersonic glide vehicle' that isn't utilised by others militaries or wasn't at least considered. It seems like a typical missile similar to the Iskander, with limited maneuverability, depressed flight trajectory, and precision strike at less than 10m CEP.
 
Isn't that how most quasi-ballistic missiles function though? With a depressed trajectory from the traditional ballistic trajectory but the actual maneuverability being limited.

I find it difficult to believe Pakistan has come up with a distinct 'supersonic glide vehicle' that isn't utilised by others militaries or wasn't at least considered. It seems like a typical missile similar to the Iskander, with limited maneuverability, depressed flight trajectory, and precision strike at less than 10m CEP.
Quasi ballistic missiles don’t just have depressed trajectory but also a glide phase.
 
Quasi ballistic missiles don’t just have depressed trajectory but also a glide phase.
Right. I was just confused with the term "supersonic glide vehicle" to describe the Fatah-II as it made it seem like a distinct/unique system to other quasi-ballistic missiles out there like Iskander, etc. Just confirming it's roughly the same kind of system.

Anyway to add to this thread, here's what a GIDS leaflet describes the export orientated version of Fatah-II:

"FATAH-II is an indigenously designed, state-of-the-art, twin canister (oblique-launched), non-ballistic, all course manoeuver, supersonic, highly accurate weapon system capable of carrying conventional warheads up to 290KM"

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Right. I was just confused with the term "supersonic glide vehicle" to describe the Fatah-II as it made it seem like a distinct/unique system to other quasi-ballistic missiles out there like Iskander, etc. Just confirming it's roughly the same kind of system.

Anyway to add to this thread, here's what a GIDS leaflet describes the export orientated version of Fatah-II:

"FATAH-II is an indigenously designed, state-of-the-art, twin canister (oblique-launched), non-ballistic, all course manoeuver, supersonic, highly accurate weapon system capable of carrying conventional warheads up to 290KM"

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is FATEH 2 range is 290 KM or 400 KM?
 
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"Digital links" suggest targeting and targeting correction can be done remotely, or via satellites? :) ...
 
"Digital links" suggest targeting and targeting correction can be done remotely, or via satellites? :) ...
must be a combination of all of those things. I think its about the battery's ability to perform with receiving real time info and leaving the area before counter battery fire can be performed. in network centric environment.
 
is there any truth to this?

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