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[F-22Raptor]

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And another 3X destroyed Tu-22s at Belaya

At least 7 destroyed and 1 damaged bomber at Belaya

 

[MH.Yang]

The evidence is easy to find on social media. I’m not going to do the research for you. I’m surprised you even try to deny Russian atrocities at this point.

Since war has broken out, then of course there will be atrocities. The whole world understands this.

No one would deny Russian atrocities, but there is a difference between atrocities and atrocities. Russian atrocities stem from war, while Israeli atrocities stem from genocide. The former should be stopped, the latter is inexcusable.

I can still tell you. Americans don't have a clean history either. If you insist on continuing to ignore the mainstream public opinion of people around the world in order to harbor Israel. Eventually your black history will inevitably be rehashed, binding you and Israel completely. And it will destroy the legitimate roots of all your rights, both domestic and international. You should really think hard about this, is it really worth it?

 

[Cash gk]

these are the people got killed by Americans since it’s birth. So you cannot expect humanity fom them
Conflict/Event
Estimated Deaths
Native American genocide
~5 to 15 million

Hiroshima & Nagasaki
~210,000
Vietnam War
~3 million+
Iraq War
~500,000 to 1 million
Afghanistan War
~120,000+
Total (approx.)
~9 to 20 million+

 

[mythbuster]

Since war has broken out, then of course there will be atrocities. The whole world understands this.

No one would deny Russian atrocities, but there is a difference between atrocities and atrocities. Russian atrocities stem from war, while Israeli atrocities stem from genocide. The former should be stopped, the latter is inexcusable.

I can still tell you. Americans don't have a clean history either. If you insist on continuing to ignore the mainstream public opinion of people around the world in order to harbor Israel. Eventually your black history will inevitably be rehashed, binding you and Israel completely. And it will destroy the legitimate roots of all your rights, both domestic and international. You should really think hard about this, is it really worth it?

That's an incisive take bro .

 

[Cash gk]

It's the cost effective nature of these drones and scalability of it is really what the main threat is.

You can definitely see militant/terror factions using these systems and maybe at a scale where a conventional military may not have the means to deal with them all at once.

In Russia's case you can tell they were caught by surprise, they didn't expect Ukraine to hit that deep the way they did. Even the trucks that were transporting these drones were later detonated to hide and destroy evidence

They transported those drones using regular transport trucks, bypassing security checks. No defense system could stop it — the real failure was at the control checkpoints. That’s how they were betrayed and how the drones managed to penetrate so deep.

 

[Cash gk]

It's the cost effective nature of these drones and scalability of it is really what the main threat is.

You can definitely see militant/terror factions using these systems and maybe at a scale where a conventional military may not have the means to deal with them all at once.

In Russia's case you can tell they were caught by surprise, they didn't expect Ukraine to hit that deep the way they did. Even the trucks that were transporting these drones were later detonated to hide and destroy evidence

I’m more worried about Pakistan, because their enemy is far more ruthless and lacks any moral boundaries. When you look at the current political situation in Pakistan — with internal instability, proxy groups fighting the state, and unrest in certain regions — it creates a dangerous opening. India can easily exploit these vulnerabilities, especially when the army chief is a deeply unpopular figure and lacks public support.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

these are the people got killed by Americans since it’s birth. So you cannot expect humanity fom them
Conflict/Event
Estimated Deaths
Native American genocide
~5 to 15 million

Hiroshima & Nagasaki
~210,000
Vietnam War
~3 million+
Iraq War
~500,000 to 1 million
Afghanistan War
~120,000+
Total (approx.)
~9 to 20 million+

Have we gotten so deluded by our USA hatred that we've forgotten how many people Stalin killed during the Soviet years? Especially in Ukraine?

Or the Chinese under Mao.

Or the Khmer Rouge?

Or what the Viet Cong did during the US involvement?

I could go on and on and on and on but some of y'all don't care and deliberately choose to ignore the other side of the coin.

Do I really need to dig up the photos of alleged dead Palestinian babies that were really dolls?

Or what Hamas did to Israeli babies?

This thread getting way too far off the rails for me.

Mods, how do I unsubscribe from a thread I've been posting in?

 

[mythbuster]

They transported those drones using regular transport trucks, bypassing security checks. No defense system could stop it — the real failure was at the control checkpoints. That’s how they were betrayed and how the drones managed to penetrate so deep.

Both of the bases are at a stones throw away from the borders of Finland and Mongolia..... there's something more than what meets the eye.

 

[mythbuster]

I’m more worried about Pakistan, because their enemy is far more ruthless and lacks any moral boundaries. When you look at the current political situation in Pakistan — with internal instability, proxy groups fighting the state, and unrest in certain regions — it creates a dangerous opening. India can easily exploit these vulnerabilities, especially when the army chief is a deeply unpopular figure and lacks public support.

Would you please leave Pakistan out of this discussion....

 

[Cash gk]

Have we gotten so deluded by our USA hatred that we've forgotten how many people Stalin killed during the Soviet years? Especially in Ukraine?

Or the Chinese under Mao.

Or the Khmer Rouge?

Or what the Viet Cong did during the US involvement?

I could go on and on and on and on but some of y'all don't care and deliberately choose to ignore the other side of the coin.

Do I really need to dig up the photos of alleged dead Palestinian babies that were really dolls?

Or what Hamas did to Israeli babies?

This thread getting way too far off the rails for me.

Mods, how do I unsubscribe from a thread I've been posting in?

Cry my boy truth hurts
No one here is justifying the crimes of Stalin, Mao, or any other regime — those atrocities are part of the historical record and have been condemned globally. But let’s not pretend that pointing out American-led wars and civilian deaths somehow means we’ve forgotten about others. We’re talking about America’s actions today because they’re still ongoing — in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Yemen, and through constant support for brutal occupations.

The moment we speak the truth about what the U.S. is doing now — suddenly, you get defensive and start shifting the topic. That’s not accountability, that’s denial. Just because others did evil doesn’t give the U.S. or its allies a free pass. Morality isn’t selective.

And no, showing pictures of fake baby dolls or cherry-picking one incident doesn’t erase the thousands of real dead civilians, including children, killed by bombs funded and supplied by the U.S. Stop deflecting — the world sees through it now.

 

[MH.Yang]

Have we gotten so deluded by our USA hatred that we've forgotten how many people Stalin killed during the Soviet years? Especially in Ukraine?

Or the Chinese under Mao.

Or the Khmer Rouge?

Or what the Viet Cong did during the US involvement?

I could go on and on and on and on but some of y'all don't care and deliberately choose to ignore the other side of the coin.

Do I really need to dig up the photos of alleged dead Palestinian babies that were really dolls?

Or what Hamas did to Israeli babies?

This thread getting way too far off the rails for me.

Mods, how do I unsubscribe from a thread I've been posting in?

Human beings summarize the mistakes made in history in order not to repeat them. Not for you to use as justification for repeating atrocities!

 

[MirageV3ff]

I’m more worried about Pakistan, because their enemy is far more ruthless and lacks any moral boundaries. When you look at the current political situation in Pakistan — with internal instability, proxy groups fighting the state, and unrest in certain regions — it creates a dangerous opening. India can easily exploit these vulnerabilities, especially when the army chief is a deeply unpopular figure and lacks public support.

That's my concern as well
Esp how groups like BLA and TTP can use these.

Hell the latter has been using drones to drop grenades onto convoys and such since the past few weeks if you've seen the footage.

 

[Cash gk]

Both of the bases are at a stones throw away from the borders of Finland and Mongolia..... there's something more than what meets the eye.

Mongolia is far from Ukraine. Finland is more understandable when it comes to choosing distance or buffer areas

 

[Cash gk]

That's my concern as well
Esp how groups like BLA and TTP can use these.

Hell the latter has been using drones to drop grenades onto convoys and such since the past few weeks if you've seen the footage.

Yes, I saw those videos. It makes me mad when I see that our generals are busy manipulating elections and the Supreme Court, trying their best to keep Imran in prison. This seems to be their only job these days.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Cry my boy truth hurts
No one here is justifying the crimes of Stalin, Mao, or any other regime — those atrocities are part of the historical record and have been condemned globally. But let’s not pretend that pointing out American-led wars and civilian deaths somehow means we’ve forgotten about others. We’re talking about America’s actions today because they’re still ongoing — in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Yemen, and through constant support for brutal occupations.

The moment we speak the truth about what the U.S. is doing now — suddenly, you get defensive and start shifting the topic. That’s not accountability, that’s denial. Just because others did evil doesn’t give the U.S. or its allies a free pass. Morality isn’t selective.

And no, showing pictures of fake baby dolls or cherry-picking one incident doesn’t erase the thousands of real dead civilians, including children, killed by bombs funded and supplied by the U.S. Stop deflecting — the world sees through it now.

Not denying and not deflecting. Just reminding you all of the hypocrisy you all love to steep in.

And, without fail, y'all always turn it into a Muslim vs. the west / Christianity / Zionist / what have you thing. As predictable as the sun always rising in the east.

Always!