Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[SaadH]

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@PAKISTANFOREVER

Look at her disgusting bias.
At least Malala backed her nation i.e. didn't rise to the bait.




Lol Indians love her.

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Given the chance they'll still rape her

 

[SaadH]

Not majority, ALL indians are like this. What Pakistanis NEED to develop is a blood thirsty hatred of ALL indians to the point where we want all indians to be wiped off the face of the universe. That is the ONLY solution left.

Hatred is the raison d'etre for successful nations/civilzations...

Lack of hatred and this lovey dovey Islam is a relgion of peace BS is what has kept the muslim world neutered and slaves for the past 500 years.

Europeans/Jews are successful in the world because of this very trait.

 

[Olympus81]

Source? Actually, no plane has 100% service rate. So no, it is not possible that all Rafales were deployed.

Did not say all Rafales flew or were in action that night, but they were deployed on the Western front by IAF.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

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Another aspect ignored by most is that china too would now want to test their other systems if not the very best than atleast the second best. I think they can now gave us their best with very small amount just for testing those in real combat scenarios.

At the same token the West must have now gone into a panic mode for what they have shared with Bharat can be now used against them in real battlefields! Take the example of Rafale. It's earmarked to carry nukes on behalf of the Western Europe sans the US involvement. Imagine the level of the strategic nightmare on their part given a full blown war with Russia is very much a possibility now.....

 

[SaadH]

Simla accord is dead. Azad Kashmir government can ask for volunteers and the world has moved past covert operations. Azad Kashmir delegations to China are not uncommon.

In best interest for the region, Pakistan is open to a trilateral agreement on Kashmir with China and India provided that the people of Kashmir are given their rights to self determination. This would offer a roadmap to other territorial disputes and water issues for the whole region.

All political and military solutions are on the table for Kashmir. If India opts out of a peaceful resolution, Pakistan and China can bilaterally resolve Kashmir issue.

But Pakistani deep state/mil-establishment still has plenty of investments/assets in the West. They wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of their financial benefactors in the West.

China still remains a "supplier of last resort". The strategic shift towards China hasn't quite happened yet, maybe in a generation or two when West is in full decline with little appetite left to accommodate little native foot soldiers from the colonies, then perhaps GHQ will change it's qibla mid namaz.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

At the same token the West must have now gone into a panic mode for what they have shared with Bharat can be now used against them in real battlefields! Take the example of Rafale. It's earmarked to carry nukes on behalf of the Western Europe sans the US involvement. Imagine the level of the strategic nightmare on their part given a full blown war with Russia is very much a possibility now.....
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For the 1st time in over 1000 years, non-white science and technology can defeat white european technology on the battlefield.

 

[frontline360news]

modern air combat is rapidly evolving, and Pakistani air forces must adapt to stay ahead. The next 5 to 10 years will likely bring:

• Increased drone warfare: Unmanned systems, including autonomous drones, will play a bigger role in reconnaissance, strike missions, and electronic warfare.
• AI-assisted decision-making: Artificial intelligence will enhance battlefield awareness, helping pilots and commanders analyze threats and react faster.
• Hypersonic weaponry: Missiles traveling at speeds above Mach 5 could change how air forces engage in combat.
• Swarm tactics: Coordinated drone swarms might be used to overwhelm enemy defenses.
• Cyber warfare integration: As military technology becomes more interconnected, cyber defense and offense will be crucial.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hatred is the raison d'etre for successful nations/civilzations...

Lack of hatred and this lovey dovey Islam is a relgion of peace BS is what has kept the muslim world neutered and slaves for the past 500 years.

Europeans/Jews are successful in the world because of this very trait.

Also, this watered down version of Islam of preaching/dawah but doing NOTHING for promoting science and technology in the Ummah is preached by so called Islamic "scholars" on youtube and other prominent platforms. This version of Islam was given by the white european colonialists when they ruled Muslim nations. Most Muslims including the so called "scholars" are not aware of this fact.

 

[SaadH]

I appreciate your question is rhetorical, however, if I were to entertain it literally for a moment, I would have to respond that the Indian sense of their own identity is largely mythical and fictitious. It is this way because of their bizarre insistence on portraying the modern Indian identity as being based on exclusively (or even substantially) indigenously derived religious, political, social, linguistic, academic and genetic elements.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The majority of their supposed identity comes from outside of the subcontinent. In summary, the genetics are mostly ancient Iranian, the current form of the dominant religion is modified by nomads from the Asiatic Steppe, the most sacred language is proto-Indo-European.

Yet here we are, "muslim invaders ruined native culture".

There were four waves of invasion of the subcontinent, Muslim invasion was the third.

However, the two most violent by far were the British and the Aryans. But hindutva clowns only reserve their wrath for Muslims?

 

[SaadH]

Israel is not afraid of Pakistan.
Pakistan weapons don't reach there.
Long range Missiles don't have accuracy.

They are only afraid of Pak having nuke

They are also afraid of babies

 

[Master Chief]

There were four waves of invasion of the subcontinent, Muslim invasion was the third.

However, the two most violent by far were the British and the Aryans. But hindutva clowns only reserve their wrath for Muslims?

Their faux nationalism is pathetic among nations.

Every nation state, barring possibly Japan, has had non-native influences, culturally, religiously, linguistically. This is nothing to be ashamed of!

Imagine for a moment if British people suddenly declared that all DNA, linguistics, religious thought, and cultural/architectural derivations from anywhere but the British Isles were to be dismantled in the interests of "nativism".

The Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Norman, Viking, Judeo-Christian influences would suddenly all be purged from the nation and over half the white population would be dalitised under thee thumb of the Celts and Druids.

The gangetic mindset must truly be a sight behold.

 

[Master Chief]

Aurangzeb did conquer most of India, but there's no evidence of him conducting any widespread massacres or genocide of hindus, especially nothing on the scale of what Ashoka is purported to have done.

So what if he did "conquer"? He brought development, order and power to those who would otherwise hoard money. If the pre-Islamic subcontinent already was powerful, then it wouldn't have been invaded so much.

Anglo-Saxons brutally pillaged and looted and raped their way through the native Celts and Britons when they arrived in the British Isles from Germania and Denmark. You don't hear modern Brits whining that the Anglo-Saxons are "non-native"

 

[muz]

This is false. Indian military did not deny any loss even as early as May 11th. And 3 weeks since has confirmed downing of jets.

Interestingly, you folks are not asking PAF for their loss of AWACS as Bholari was hit, a Sq Leader and four more PAF personnels was martyred and a retired Air Marshal also talked about damage to AWACS on that base.

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Or she never took part in the attack as she is posted else where on eastern side.

We are pretty transparent with our losses including our dead Civilians/Military unlike you
as of now the only equipment damage on Pak side was a command or communication node of an HQ9 or HQ16 on either Waltan or Westridge and the damage was light sharpnel on the exterior of it thats it
As for the awacs the only PAF awacs loss was from a TTP attack you can still live in your delulu bollywood mode of destroying 3 awacs 1 tanker aircraft 8 F16 4 JF17 might as well throw in 17 PAC mushack 20 K8 and 7 F7PG

 

[Master Chief]

You tell me, since May 10th till date people here are searching for some female rafale pilot. LOL! Every darned rumor has been spun about her. And now they want Indian media to produce her pictures or videos.

The problem is that General Chauhan assures us casual armchair observers that it is not the number of downed jets that matters, but why they were downed.

If jets are downed, as we now know to be the case (despite Indian denials and obfuscation hitherto), pilots may well have been killed. DGISPR told us on 12th May that no pilots were in Pakistani custody. If we had any temporarily, evidently, they were already repatriated to India prior to this statement. Nobody knows what state any pilot may have been repatriated in, alive/injured/dead.

If we are to go by Chauhan's suggestion that numbers don't matter and extrapolate that to pilots, then India as a nation and as a people needs to do some serious introspection.

What surprises us casual forum goers is the apathy from Indians towards these now reasonable questions about HUMAN losses.

Are your pilots so damned expendable to your nation in pursuit of setting Karachi port ablaze or blowing up our damns or some other hindutva fantasy, that nobody is asking BJP the simple question: since Chauhan has now confirmed the loss of material, can the nation kindly be informed of any loss of pilots?

The way I see it, constant mythology-level denials create a box with ever shrinking walls. Modi put himself in this box - it isn't your problem. Indian people do owe it to their armed forces to demand precise answers about the fate of their pilots, so at the very least, the nation can pray for their injured or grieve their lost ones. The answers given to you hitherto are ambiguous: "all pilots are home". This is a vacuous statement. "Are those pilots dead or alive?" is the next natural question. We are constantly told that the Indian armed forces are true servants of the people, so prove it by standing up for them and asking the simplest of questions to your government.

 

[Vkdindian1]

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The CDS seems like a nice guy (compared to modi lot). He even praised the Pakistani top brass for showing restraint.

If only they knew how to kick out PMs and presidents, maybe all this could be avoided.

I hope the Indian military rebels Any further orders of provocations.

That’s the difference between India and Pakistan and it is for good. Defence forces don’t control things in India. And the democracy in India has always done good for us inspite of ups and downs.
Both the nations were created at the same time with Pakistan under military rule for the most part and we all know where it stands in terms of all development matrices.

Indian military knows its place and would never dare to try and grow beyond their show size and play a role that they don’t need to.