Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NationalistPKDude132]

Okay relax and behave yourself

i am i just want to debunk some indians here parading some stupid narratives.

 

[Fatman17]

i am i just want to debunk some indians here parading some stupid narratives.

Okay no inappropriate language

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

This indian jet downing footage is also from a different perspective as the one shared a few days ago which showed PL 15 impacting a rafale

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[NationalistPKDude132]

Okay no inappropriate language

Okay, i just find some things silly

"dummy jets" lolz

 

[harpy1]

This air battle will go down in history as utter humiliation for evolving child killing monkeys across the border….. the world is studying our airforce’s response and trying to get trained with us…

The world is watching the precision strikes of Brahmos scalp and hammer and Chinese radars and missiles utter failure

Your biggest air bases are easy target from within Indian air space

 

[Vox Non Dei]

-The Iranian systems ( air force and ground based) failed the Israelis carried out a 100 plane 2000 km strike and suffered no losses
-The Pakistani Chinese origin systems ( air force and ground defense) failed Indiian Air Force suffered losses over a 100 km stand off strike.

What is more the Indian Air Force has close co-ordination and support from the Israeli air force.

Israeli air force is indeed much better than Indian airforce and operate much better equipment -- F-35s for instance. No doubt there.

Pakistani military (air and army) are much better than Iranian one and operate much better equipment too -- F-16s, J-10s.

Better attacker was up against worse defender leading to survival rate for attackers.
Whats so controversial here?

 

[Oscar]

I fully agree in this regard. However, most members here are inclined to claim that all the initiative and advantage was with one side while the other side was in complete disarray.

My take is that both used force in a measured and calculated way for messaging without desiring full fledged escalation. Same reason they accepted ceasefire with many elements both sides lamenting it and asking for some more time.

Initiative went back and forth - there is vacillation on decision that leads to misses just as there is foolhardiness that leads to poor decisions.

For e.g I have heard from two opposing channels that leaving the PAF aside the IAF flyers are fuming at their superiors and intel branches along with leadership for delaying/changing plans that contributed to their air losses.

Basically a message being sent as “We know how to do our jobs, when you interfere and then delay decisions you put our lives in needless risk and lead to losses”

So the video I posted goes both ways - there is the need to link everything with messaging but when your messaging needs trump years of planning and down to the minute aspects - when not every station commander has their ship tight - it leads to issues.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

Well after getting some videos, one thing is certain. Most of our Fatah Rockets did went through (maybe the Fatah-2 going towards Delhi was down). Fatah performed great towards Indian AD. Wonder how Babur would had performed. I believe @Oscar had said that actions are done to send the message. We used our Rockets to send the message that we have the intention to hit your bases as well. Three rockets of Fatah 1 were used per target. The videos received of bases hit did showed smoking coming out from 3 areas of the same locations. Next time could be precise missiles hits.

 

[That_Guy]

Unlike you, I am WAY more through in my posts...
This is a Government of India related twitter handle.
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That makes it WORSE!

Do you not know what objectivity and propaganda are?

You're showing more and more how you are not a serious person.

 

[Oscar]

The world is watching the precision strikes of Brahmos scalp and hammer and Chinese radars and missiles utter failure

Your biggest air bases are easy target from within Indian air space

The desperation of you folks for validation is ridiculous

 

[TallGuy]

India used 15 Brahmos cruise missiles in total only on the 10th

Every one hit with in 1 metre cep.
Thanks to Navic Indian own GPS satalites

Indian three armed services have over 1000 Brahmos cruise missiles on land sea and air

Rafiqui AFB (4 x Brahmos GL-SSCM) fired from SuratGarh AFS (IAF)
Shahbaz AFB (3 x Brahmos GK-SSCM) fired from Jaisalmir AFS
Sarghoda AFB (3 x Brahmos GL-SSCM)
Nurkhan AFB (2 x Brahmos GL-SSCM)
Bholari AFB (3 x Brahmos GL-SSCM) fired from Bhuj AFS (IAF)

Is this correct?
so we can deduce how many actually hit and how many miss ? then we can get a sample of success rate?

 

[PakSword]

Keep saving your missiles. Don’t fire them as they could be very expensive.
Whatever you fire, it should be such that it can be easily intercepted by the enemy.

Don’t do anything to make an enemy unhappy. Aakhir padosi bhi koi cheez hoti hai.

Indians are so diyalu, they even used Rafales to intercept the PL-15 missiles.

Nothing should cross the 100 kms imaginary border within India.. even if indians have to throw modi at Pakistani missiles.

 

[Oscar]

That makes it WORSE!

Do you not know what objectivity and propaganda are?

You're showing more and more how you are not a serious person.

There is a back and forth -
If they cannot prove their point but are adamant to never believe yours then they go ad hominem - posting irrelevant or dubious source content to dump it all in.

The idea of “YOU ARE AN INDIAN ON A PAKISTANI FORUM”

“What is the validation you seek here?”

There is no MORE
NO MORE than 10% of their intentions here to actually have a dialogue.

The rest is just trying to see if they can get some self fellatio ego trip to push some points here.

The worthwhile folks we have from India are here - we recognize them, we disagree respectfully with them and they with us but we also connect.

Otherwise
Every other new registrant or the new
“Shahzaz uddin from Pakistan” variety are here to find their own validations because they basically got tired of sucking each others tiny johnsons off in Bharat Ratshit forum.

 

[hussain0216]

The world is watching the precision strikes of Brahmos scalp and hammer and Chinese radars and missiles utter failure

Your biggest air bases are easy target from within Indian air space

The IAF was literally grounded after having multiple jets shot down

Do you think the world is even surprised that two countries NEXT TO EACH OTHER shot drones and missiles at each other that A.D wasn't able to stop


Seriously the world is shocked how humiliated the IAF with so many assets was, and nothing else

 

[jburke]

If PL15s were used at Dmax kinematic range, it is highly likely that after initial lock and tracking by PAF jets guidance was taken over by BeiDou PNT (precision navigation timing)to do mid course correction and during the terminal phase the AESA seeker of PL15 guided the missile to target IAF jets. Therefore PAF did not have the radar track files to show to press. But results were achieved. BeiDou PNT ground earth stations are colocated with Suparco in Karachi and interfaced with PAF fibre optics backbone for near real time situational awareness. BeiDou military PNT is accurate to cms.