Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Arsalan45 said:
It’s not the last one. Before final
War, they will try to learn more about our tactics. Each conflict gives them confidence, confidence to invade. Problem is same old pakistani policy. UN is like a fraud, powerless organization . India calling Kashmir a bilateral issue means no intervention from any country.This is what they want, no intervention of any country so that they can dictate is everything. As I said somewhere, Indians are very clever and you need right strategy to handle them.

With mosque attack, they have already crossed all limits. Indus water issue is a worrisome development. It can’t be ignored and india knows it, somehow forcing Pakistan to attack
India first. Pakistan has no option but to attack.

Point is there is no solid excuse. Only excuse that work is when we declare Kashmir as ours but we don’t have the courage. In one scenario, Indian army is ready to face nuclear missile that’s why all this multi layered ads.

Modi is here to break Pakistan. Musharraf had similar plans and he was very aggressive. This is why we must act like Musharraf era Pakistan. We must open our own new conflict against India in order to degrade Indian mindset and put them in a coma like situation like Musharraf did during kargil. I literally saw them crying on tv while remembering kargil. Fear is necessary. This india will eat us alive if we only do retaliation .this india is not old india.
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Pakistan must stop pretending this is business as usual. The enemy across the border has changed — in mindset, in doctrine, in ambition. What you are facing now is a regime with open expansionist goals, deeply invested in destabilising and eventually dismantling Pakistan, piece by piece. They are testing your responses, probing your systems, and adapting with each limited engagement. This isn’t escalation control — it’s a planned invasion rehearsal.

The recent strikes, especially the brazen mosque attack and repeated threats to Indus waters, are not tactical - they are psychological warfare. And they’re working - because Pakistan still seems to cling to outdated notions of diplomacy through the UN or appeals to international “norms.” India has cleverly neutralised global intervention by hiding behind “bilateral” rhetoric, even as it unilaterally violates every understanding.

Let’s be clear: India wants to push Pakistan into a reactive posture - then punish that reaction. It is forcing Pakistan into a corner where any strike we carry out first becomes “unjustified,” while their aggression is painted as “preemptive defence.” That trap must be broken.

Musharraf, for all his flaws, understood something critical: the Indian military machine fears psychological defeat more than casualties. Kargil wasn’t about territory - it was about mindset. It froze New Delhi’s confidence and proved that India could be shaken at its core, even by a limited manoeuvre.

Today, you need that same doctrine - not copy-pasted, but reimagined: covert, preemptive, and punishing. You must take initiative when they least expect it - not just to strike but to rattle their political, military, and media ecosystems into paralysis.

Declaring Kashmir as integral to Pakistan (and in joint claim with China, if strategically viable) would not only reset the narrative but give Pakistan the legal and political basis to act with force. The world respects action, not hesitation. And this version of India - militarised, irrational, and obsessed with hegemony - will eat away at Pakistan’s existence unless it is confronted proactively.

Pakistan must not wait for the “final war” - because by then, it may already be too late.
 
TO ALL PAKISTANI POSTERS.....

Please do not ruin all the fantastic and amazing facts about how IAF got demolished and destroyed by posting or responding to posts about some unknown Female Indian pilot.......

This useless discussion and posts cloud our victory and give chance to Indian trolls to focus on one thing we have no proof of while ignoring the wreckages of their pride and national dignity strewn all over Indian land.

Who gives a shit if there was an Indian female pilot....lets bring them to focus and accept the humiliation of their IAF grounding their planes for two days after getting beating from PAF...
 
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harpy1 said:
You guys can never admit that your air bases were hit hard very hard
And I understand why
India wanted to deliver a message I think they achieved it
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The msg India received is that Pakistan will not act nice when you attack anything in Pakistan plus say hello to new proxies in IOK. 90s are so back !
 
muz said:
On the topic of AD on our Pakistan side where was the HQ-7 this is the system that we have the longest in our aresnal
All the heavy lifting was done by HQ-9/HQ-16 and Skyguard AAA cannons
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Its not a class where it has to say “Present sir”

The AD system in place looks at everything from systems performance, sensor coverage, track parameters, emissions settings and presents options to AD controllers to use.

Hq-7 is for particular focuses - and it stuck there
 
Abdul q said:
So, india not helping his communal papa russia?? Ehh.!?
No phull sappport?
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according to the indian posters here, their pilots went home (due to downed jets, lol).
So they may not be able to support anything as they're crying about losing their "lemon and chillies" protected Rafales. The magical coconut water was disappointing as it did not give the rafale a molecular-bonded shell against the missiles from the PAF's J10C and JF17 Thunders

They will float a tender for better coconuts and lemons and chillies in coming days, maybe ask France for it ...they want OEM stuff.....LOL
 
harpy1 said:
Ok.waz
Which fighters were downed
Which Paf fighter type which missle did the damage
Show me all five proofs
Not some random crash site from a mig 21 in 2006

Your defense minster was asked this question.on UK.tv
His answer was hilarious
He said social media 😂 😂 😂
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Show me evidence of F16 that was shot down in 2019. We will start from here. Lets go !
 
Imagine having 80 billion usd defense budget and still trying to prove to the world that some of your missiles went through to their targets in a country whose def budget is paltry 8 billion USD. These clowns think they can take on China while can't even overwhelm a small country like Pakistan. Amazing feat !
 
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The CDS seems like a nice guy (compared to modi lot). He even praised the Pakistani top brass for showing restraint.

If only they knew how to kick out PMs and presidents, maybe all this could be avoided.

I hope the Indian military rebels Any further orders of provocations.
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What kind of rational people use nuclear capable missles on national capital???
 
harpy1 said:
Ok.waz
Which fighters were downed
Which Paf fighter type which missle did the damage
Show me all five proofs
Not some random crash site from a mig 21 in 2006

Your defense minster was asked this question.on UK.tv
His answer was hilarious
He said social media 😂 😂 😂
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There is whole thread
We have dozens of videos from each site, unless you are living in a cave

1- mig29
2- su30
3-mirage2000
4- rafale

Go to thread to see locations and videos. There are several more videos that are from same sites with different angles
 
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