Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

So it means Pakistan was in position to walkaway without taking any hits and still humiliating IAF and India after downing IAF fighters on 7th May. Asim's miscalculation provided India an excuse to escalate to using Brahmos for Pakistan Army or Air Force had no answer and the result is we provided India with multiple Sat images which they are continuously rubbing on our faces while we don't have shit to prove that we ACTUALLY hit anything meaningful on Indian side apart from Indian posts on LoC which were targeted by SH-15s and other artillery assets. Pakistan's BDA is simply non-existent. In summary, it was another missed opportunity.
The good part is that this might’ve been the final push to make the planners realize that our AD needs a lot of work. And like lots of work.

Brahmos has always been a high threat to the security of national assets, cities and whatsoever.

As we progress to hypersonic missile warfare, the chances of getting hit increases.

We must increase our SHORAD units drastically, spam them, mobilize them throughout cities and concentrate them near airbases, depots.

HIMADS that can counter supersonic systems should be invested upon.

Besides that, In the long term, Military must invest in their own indigenous air defense systems in order to save up on costs of procurement and manufacture as much as we want to and whenever we want to
 
It has been publisised that Fatah along with drones were the main types of weapons used apart from CM400 against attempted strike on S400.

It is interesting to note that PAF fired so much ordnance. There is no information on the types of weapons fired.

Then there is issue of ceasefire. Actually, the best day for Pakistan to call for one was on 7th itself. It had already done the maximum damage and with ceasefire, it would have denied India any chance to salvage the day one losses.
Jog along bud...
 
Missile test? Distraction? Something cooking during Eid?

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S@nghis have been such a loud mouth with their fake bravado and fantasy power projections that much of the world actually started buying into their $hit. They painted India as some top 5 global power — even the world drinking too much indian cool aid and believing these bragadocios propped them up as a somekind of counter to China. But reality has just exposed them: not only are they nowhere near global power status, they’re not even holding up as a regional force.

Now, these Western YouTubers are struggling, trying to wrap their heads around how the PAF handed them a solid whopping their behinds, lock stock and barrel.
👉 [Watch this](https://youtube.com/shorts/eDInaHutqoU?si=a__2rcbYlImsYyDF)
 
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S@nghis have been such a loud mouth with their fake bravado and fantasy power projections that much of the world actually started buying into their $hit. They painted India as some top 5 global power — even the world drinking too much indian cool aid and believing these bragadocios propped them up as a somekind of counter to China. But reality has just exposed them: not only are they nowhere near global power status, they’re not even holding up as a regional force.

Now, these Western YouTubers are struggling, trying to wrap their heads around how the PAF handed them a solid whopping their behinds, lock stock and barrel.
👉 [Watch this](https://youtube.com/shorts/eDInaHutqoU?si=a__2rcbYlImsYyDF)


This is the most ACCURATE analysis so far. This is EXACTLY what happened. Although india's allies have started abandoning it right now, for over a decade the west started to believe that india was an equal power to China and had a world class military. india can forget trying to take on China EVER. The TRUTH is that india can't even take on Pakistan. The whole world knows this now and no-one wants to back or be connected to a loser like india.
 
CAPS continue to this moment.
we do like to waste fuel on defensive posture instead of swatting IAF into extinction when it presents its arse..😠😠

Air chief's famous order should have been,
"Ensure enemy kill,
deny own losses,
(and in a more offensive sense)
Make all possible shots
Take all the good shots
Deal as much damage as possible."

Also, all the IAF aircraft including special mission aircraft should have been green lit for targeting, instead of just the launching ones...
 
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The Indian are high and ultra confident with their drones/lotering mutation, bramos,
They are so confident they believed they have no problem to try it on China next, I wonder what my country can offer them if they want a misadventure. :)
 
Don’t flatter yourself. Militancy in Kashmir faded not because Pakistan got wiser, but because it ran out of options. In Balochistan, no strategy will work, economic growth and integration is a non-starter for Pakistan.
All that chest thumping until things start to go down... And remember, you heard it from me first :)

200 odd militants vs 750k security forces, tells you a lot.
 
There are several lessons learned for Pakistan.

- Better defense against drone swarms. The gap can be closed with SHORAD or further investments into soft kills tech (microwave technology) without having to switch ADs.

- Better defense against Brahmos. Here offense may be the best defense. An indigenous investment in manufacturing our own Supersonic or Hypersonic missiles may force the Indians to rethink before deploying the Brahmos missile. From a defense perspective, more investments into local ADs integrated with the entire network of ADs should be the need of the hour. Pakistan seems to have been lagging in this area.
 
There are several lessons learned for Pakistan.

- Better defense against drone swarms. The gap can be closed with SHORAD or further investments into soft kills tech (microwave technology) without having to switch ADs.

- Better defense against Brahmos. Here offense may be the best defense. An indigenous investment in manufacturing our own Supersonic or Hypersonic missiles may force the Indians to rethink before deploying the Brahmos missile. From a defense perspective, more investments into local ADs integrated with the entire network of ADs should be the need of the hour. Pakistan seems to have been lagging in this area.
Offense against Brahmos. Let the jokers know, any Brahmos launch will be considered a potential nuke launch since we have no idea if it is carrying a tactical nuke warhead and respond as if it is carrying one.
 

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