Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Vox Non Dei said:
How the hell is that a propaganda when EVEN Pakistani military is agreeing to that they do not have any female rafale pilot in captivity? I am sorry to say but you are delusional here. Why will Pakistan and India agree to a common propaganda?

Heck, most reports are telling that neither side's planes crossed into other for an attack to avoid a pilot capture.
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Since when did Indians start believing Pakistani Military Statement?
Only When they suit your narrative?
 
NationalistPKDude132 said:
Zero details again. Very vague saying 6 fighters? What six fighters? Konse six fighters? we clearly gave this info 2 days after the battle and this is IAF's rough assessment?! Even rough assessment dont have this vague detail.

What were they shot with? Nothing said about that?
Zero details. All super vague accusations.
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Relax, so far its just typical bakhts and godimedia shooting stories out of imagination. The fun will start once the IAF claims something officially. Wonder how they are just gonna come up with BS while knowning very well they couldn't even fire shit at our aircrafts. Let alone downing. Just like 2019.
 
hussain0216 said:
I tried to explain this in MULTIPLE threads

The west made a mistake with China, they blindly allowed China to become a manufacturing superpower, that led to China becoming a real super power, or at least a superpower in waiting

The world WILL NOT make that mistake with India
Will some business, manufacturing go to India, sure it will
But it will be balanced and limited and India will flatline as a state soon enough

Already India is killing minorities in Canada and the U.S
Targeting minorities and others at home
Clamping down on media and social media
And indians VOMIT the most insane and inane self grandiose bull shit you ever heard

When a country like India has such OBVIOUS delusions of grandeur, then they are dangerous
Dangerous for the region
Dangerous for the world
Dangerous for its own population


The the world will have a common understanding that such a nation needs to be controlled and remain under limits


The west isn't stupid, they see India for what it is and the danger it poses
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You make an interesting point, however, I disagree.

Firstly, you assume India could become a disciplined, meritocratic, focused manufacturing powerhouse on condition that the is "left to its own devices" by the west.

This is erroneous because of the differences in governance ideology, work ethic/ecosystems, quality control. I don't think India can mobilise itself nationwide AND consistently. There is too much variation in both living standards and productivity standards. Sure, there are billionaires and there is a healthy middle class but there is also a massive poor class and significant emigration of anyone with a measure of talent and drive.

Secondly, you have assumed that the west would regard enhancing India's manufacturing output would be regarded as "harmful" to the west - I don't think they would see it that way. Indeed, the west still actively sanctions China (though they are few and mostly military or diplomatic as far as I am aware), while it somewhat incentivises and still sends all manner of aid to India. I believe - if they could - some factions in western deep states would gladly replace China for India in the global economic ecosystem. This objective simply isn't possible though because India has too many problems in and of itself to even come close to such a level.

You're correct that India, under both BJP and Congress has delusions of grandeur but I don't think the west is overly concerned whether India pursues their hegemonic delusions or not.

It is rather up to sensible Asian nations to reel these delulus in once and for all, and Pakistan will lead the way.
 
Are our thunders and j10c's still armed as well as our Navy?

Because I don't like this notam and their fake exercise in arabian sea all of a sudden. This will heighten tensions again

they must be upto something..
 
NationalistPKDude132 said:
this guy should replace Ishaq Dar as our foreign minister immediately
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Temu version of Netanyahu.
Do not be inspired by the worst examples possible.
OK....I'm glad for once Pakistan is publicly mocking Israel. When you do so even when the topic at hand is different, it is a SIGNIFICANT insight into the sentiment of the establishment.
 
While i have not listen to Bilawal's speech he does exel in certain communication role in English because he has been trained well in British University
  • Born with silver spoon
  • Studied with special teachers since child birth
  • Raised and nurtured in luxury as a rich person's child should
  • Communication is of course good (in english) studied in England , he does not need a Purchi

However , he is the best among worse (who are in power without any merit)

Sitting in Foreign Minister role without official mandate from people first he has to get elected first with proper vote from public

For me it is hard to watch any one in Gov who is holding to power without Vote of his own people

Bilawal Criticizing Modi , is like two bad car sales men trying to bad mouth each other so customer would buy car from one of them
 
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