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RabzonKhan said:
The Trump administration has finally complied with the court order and brought back Kilmar Garcia after his wrongful deportation. According to reports, he now faces charges related to immigrant smuggling. If he was indeed involved in human smuggling, then due process should take its course—he should be charged, serve his sentence, and likely face deportation afterward. That would be the proper legal path.

Ultimately, this situation highlights two key points: First, the courts and judges were absolutely right in issuing orders against his wrongful deportation. Second, the Trump administration, despite its initial misstep, deserves recognition for correcting its mistake and ensuring Garcia was returned to face justice. Upholding the rule of law is essential, and this case demonstrates the importance of both judicial oversight and government accountability.


Kilmar Abrego Garcia returns to face immigrant smuggling charges after wrongful deportation​

Published Fri, Jun 6 2025

  • Maryland resident Kilmar Abrego Garcia was being returned to the United States to face criminal charges months after he was wrongfully deported to a prison in his native El Salvador.
  • Abrego Garcia has been indicted in federal court in Tennessee on a charge related to transporting undocumented migrants within the United States. Read more
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It was the threat of judicial sanctions against the trump admin and it's lawyers that finally got the ball rolling.

If the guy is a threat, prove it in court and get rid of him legally
 
fallschirmjager786 said:
It was the threat of judicial sanctions against the trump admin and it's lawyers that finally got the ball rolling.

If the guy is a threat, prove it in court and get rid of him legally
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He will likely be convicted for transporting illegals and as an illegal himself, he will be deported.
 
fallschirmjager786 said:
It was the threat of judicial sanctions against the trump admin and it's lawyers that finally got the ball rolling.

If the guy is a threat, prove it in court and get rid of him legally
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I agree with your point about the role of judicial pressure in compelling the Trump administration to act in Garcia's case. The administration had repeatedly ignored court orders, including rulings from the Supreme Court and this defiance sparked serious concern within the legal community. Many feared that continued disregard for judicial authority could escalate into a broader constitutional crisis.

It was, therefore, a relief to see the administration finally comply and facilitate Garcia's return, effectively acknowledging the authority of the courts. Now, with allegations of human smuggling against him, it is appropriate that he faces trial. If convicted, the government will have the option to imprison him or deport him immediately. However, even if he is not found guilty of smuggling, his undocumented status alone could still justify deportation, as he had entered the country illegally.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
He will likely be convicted for transporting illegals and as an illegal himself, he will be deported.
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Even if he is not convicted of transporting undocumented immigrants, his unlawful presence in the US still makes him subject to deportation.
 
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RabzonKhan said:
And just like that, another needless controversy comes to an end.
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Wouldn't have been a controversy in the first place had the Democrats not made an issue of it.

They let approximately 14M into this country. Even now, they are openly obstructing ICE at every turn. It won't be long and the glove will come off. Obstruct, and you'll be in cuffs too.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Wouldn't have been a controversy in the first place had the Democrats not made an issue of it.

They let approximately 14M into this country. Even now, they are openly obstructing ICE at every turn. It won't be long and the glove will come off. Obstruct, and you'll be in cuffs too.
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If anything both parties are guilty, their donors need the cheap exploitable labor.
 
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AZ_HighCountry said:
Wouldn't have been a controversy in the first place had the Democrats not made an issue of it.

They let approximately 14M into this country. Even now, they are openly obstructing ICE at every turn. It won't be long and the glove will come off. Obstruct, and you'll be in cuffs too.
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I’m surprised that you’re blaming the Democrats for this situation when, in reality, they weren’t the ones responsible. The facts clearly show that it was the Trump administration that violated a 2019 immigration court order, which had barred Garcia’s removal due to concerns that he would be targeted by gangs in El Salvador. Despite this, the administration picked him up and deported him, disregarding the legal protections in place.

Following his deportation, his wife and human rights organizations appealed his case, arguing that his removal was unlawful. Their legal challenge resulted in a successful ruling, which ordered the Trump administration to bring him back since his deportation had been illegal. The Supreme Court also ruled against the Trump administration, instructing them to facilitate his return.

Interestingly, the ruling was unanimous, meaning that even Trump-appointed justices agreed that his deportation was unlawful. This wasn’t a partisan issue; it was a matter of due process and legal compliance.

One Democratic senator did get involved, but only after all of this had already happened. He visited Garcia and helped expose another false claim made by the Trump administration—that he was a gang member with a tattoo on his hand. That claim turned out to be completely fabricated, and Trump embarrassed himself by publicly showing a picture of Garcia with a fake tattoo on his knuckle. It’s clear that someone in the White House handed him that fake picture, completely misleading him, and whoever was responsible should be fired for such a careless mistake.

So, if you’re looking for someone to blame, the facts point squarely at the Trump administration, not the Democrats.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the 14 million figure from. Do you have a reliable source for that? Trump and many other Republicans during the 2024 presidential primaries repeatedly changed the number of undocumented immigrants they claimed entered the U.S. under Biden. Depending on the occasion, they cited completely different figures, sometimes saying 8 million, other times 10 or even more. These shifting numbers suggest they were more about political messaging than actual data.

I agree that anyone who obstructs or hinders ICE should be arrested and prosecuted, as it is a violation of the law.
 
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Oh yeah, I still remember that incident from Trump’s first administration. It was truly embarrassing for him, he was so shocked by the question that he didn’t even respond. Instead, he pretended not to understand, as if the words had completely thrown him off. I believe that journalist was from HuffPost.
 
RabzonKhan said:
I’m surprised that you’re blaming the Democrats for this situation when, in reality, they weren’t the ones responsible. The facts clearly show that it was the Trump administration that violated a 2019 immigration court order, which had barred Garcia’s removal due to concerns that he would be targeted by gangs in El Salvador. Despite this, the administration picked him up and deported him, disregarding the legal protections in place.
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I am blaming Democrats because they blatantly left the borders wide open and unsecure for 4 years. Between 10M-14M came across as a result of that.

It is as if they were deliberately planning for a Trump second term and this would be their latest attempt to divide the country.

Otherwise, it would be more theater on granting them amnesty and a fast track to citizenship.

Don't be naive my friend. I'm starting to like you.....a bit.
 
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