Los Angeles Clashes between ICE and demonstrators, Trump sends in the National Guard.

[hyperman]

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Randomly Snatching up Tourists now. Honestly, never seen the country like this. Its getting more and more ridiculous.

 

[That_Guy]

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Randomly Snatching up Tourists now. Honestly, never seen the country like this. Its getting more and more ridiculous.

People defending ICE, justify this shit.

 

[nahtanbob]

They weren't allowing anything, nor were they giving blanket asylum.

US law dictates that anyone can apply for asylum, once they cross the border. Gaining asylum is another matter altogether, and the US had a record number of rejections under both Obama and Biden. Kamala Harris literally went on TV, and broad cast across Latin America to NOT come to the US, because their application for asylum would be rejected, and they'd be deported.

People cross the border even to this day, is Trump "allowing" them to cross?

Statistics literally prove my point, so you used that quote from Mark Twain wrong.

Asylum can be revoked by executive order

Migrants at Texas border in shock after Trump canceled their asylum appointments - The Texas Tribune

Hours after Trump’s inauguration, his administration canceled appointments allowing migrants to enter the U.S. to request asylum, leaving many of them stranded on the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.texastribune.org

Supreme Court allows Trump to revoke temporary legal status of 500,000 immigrants from 4 countries

A federal judge had blocked the administration from immediately ending temporary status granted by the Biden administration to people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

www.nbcnews.com

Are all the asylum seekers going to comply with the law and leave USA ?

As for the effects of Trump actions there is plenty of news media that points out otherwise

For the first time in decades, the US-Mexico border is silent. Here's why

President Trump's promise to stem the flow of migrants across the border seems fulfilled: Fewer migrants are crossing and filling shelters.

www.azcentral.com

 

[KingQamaR]

Please re-read it and tell me what part is not clear

Visa is not a right. It is a privilege that can be revoked at any time for any reason
Get used to it

What Privilege ? They are paying for there studies in the US. They’ll take their money else where’s.
I haven't read what law or policy was broken? Please educate uS.

 

[That_Guy]

Asylum can be revoked by executive order

Migrants at Texas border in shock after Trump canceled their asylum appointments - The Texas Tribune

Hours after Trump’s inauguration, his administration canceled appointments allowing migrants to enter the U.S. to request asylum, leaving many of them stranded on the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.texastribune.org

Supreme Court allows Trump to revoke temporary legal status of 500,000 immigrants from 4 countries

A federal judge had blocked the administration from immediately ending temporary status granted by the Biden administration to people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

www.nbcnews.com

Are all the asylum seekers going to comply with the law and leave USA ?

As for the effects of Trump actions there is plenty of news media that points out otherwise

For the first time in decades, the US-Mexico border is silent. Here's why

President Trump's promise to stem the flow of migrants across the border seems fulfilled: Fewer migrants are crossing and filling shelters.

www.azcentral.com

Using executive orders aren't a great route to take, meaning EOs can (and have successfully) been challenged in court.

To answer your question with a question of my own, do US citizens obey all the laws of the land?

Asylum seekers and undocumented workers have lowest level of crime rates in the US, while actual citizens have the highest.

Even statistically, your argument makes no sense.

 

[nahtanbob]

People defending ICE, justify this shit.

People elected a felon and a idiot for one reason. They want illegal immigrants out. I wouldn't expect you to understand

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Maybe you should go back to Pakistan

Maybe you should go back to india.

 

[That_Guy]

People elected a felon and a idiot for one reason. They want illegal immigrants out. I wouldn't expect you to understand

Oh, i understand. Just because I think they're all retarded, and should be thrown in a mental asylum, because their opinion is genuinely moronic, doesn't mean it don't understand it.

Understanding and agreeing are two different things.

 

[nahtanbob]

Using executive orders aren't a great route to take, meaning EOs can (and have successfully) been challenged in court.

Says who ?? Every Congressional law can be challenged in court. The President has explicit authority to decide who is a refugee and who isn;t

To answer your question with a question of my own, do US citizens obey all the laws of the land?

It is f*** irrelevant. Are the refugees going to comply with laws of the land ?
To the uninformed breaking the law is the easiest way to disqualify yourselves from naturalization process in USA.

Asylum seekers and undocumented workers have lowest level of crime rates in the US, while actual citizens have the highest.

I never said anything about crime rates

 

[That_Guy]

Says who ?? Every Congressional law can be challenged in court. The President has explicit authority to decide who is a refugee and who isn;t

Says the courts.

Often times, congressional law is far more scrutinized and challenges fail.

EOs are often employed, because the President knows ita often either a gray area, or because they know irs blatantly illegal, but they have congressional support via 50+1 seats, and are often just done to buy enough time to get things done.

It is f*** irrelevant. Are the refugees going to comply with laws of the land ?
To the uninformed breaking the law is the easiest way to disqualify yourselves from naturalization process in USA.

Okay, let's ignore the fact that it is very relevant...

Yes, they do comply, and statistically are less likely to break the law than citizens are, precisely because they can be disqualified.

Your argument falls flat on its face, no matter how you make it.

I never said anything about crime rates

You mentioned breaking the law, and I gave you a valid answer. What answer were you looking for?

What fo you think a crime is? Or what breaking the law means?

 

[nahtanbob]

Says the courts.

Often times, congressional law is far more scrutinized and challenges fail.

EOs are often employed, because the President knows ita often either a gray area, or because they know irs blatantly illegal, but they have congressional support via 50+1 seats, and are often just done to buy enough time to get things done.

Okay, let's ignore the fact that it is very relevant...

Yes, they do comply, and statistically are less likely to break the law than citizens are, precisely because they can be disqualified.

Your argument falls flat on its face, no matter how you make it.

You mentioned breaking the law, and I gave you a valid answer. What answer were you looking for?

What fo you think a crime is? Or what breaking the law means?

Look up US naturalization form

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-400.pdf

Have you ever
Helped anyone or enter the United States illegally ?

Yes or No

 

[SolarWarden]

To the foreigners not living in the US lecturing us how to deal with our illegal aliens...

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[That_Guy]

Look up US naturalization form

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/n-400.pdf

Have you ever
Helped anyone or enter the United States illegally ?

Yes or No

And this proves what exactly?

 

[arjunk]

Most of them are running from horrific situations such as political persecution (caused by US meddling in the first place).

Ok, so why would start rioting in the streets and raising foreign flags? This is namak haram behaviour that got Afghans deported from Pakistsan after 40 years of staying here.

They chose to enter illegally, they know the risks. If they are running for asylum the proper way is to go to a port of entry and then request it. Not jump the border fence and tresspass.

Would you feel safe letting random homeless men into your home around your children and women? You may feel bad for them, but are you seriously gullible enough to trust them?

our argument lacks sense, and relies on a black and white legal and moral compass.

Again, it is unacceptable for an undocumented alien to start waving a foreign flag and rioting against law enforcement.

No one is entitled to illegally squat in a foreign country.

 

[arjunk]

A lot of the time? Actually, yes.

A majority of the time, they're caught and released after being processed. It was US policy for decades, because the US relied on their labour. This was especially true under the Republicans, who talked tough but were actually more lenient towards undocumented workers than the Dems were, because red states relied far more heavily on immigrants and undocumented labour than blue states.

Also, Homer Simpson learned his lesson. He went full anti-immigrant, until he realized it affected him directly. Not even joking, Simpsons did it first. So you using Homer in your comment is highly ironic, because even in his stupidity, even he realized that going after undocumented immigrants was a bad idea.

So, the great moral argument for flooding America with illegals is to exploit them for de facto slave labour?