Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Not really, unsure who you hang out with. Most Pakistanis do not care anymore. Avewrage guy on street has great fondness for China

To give you an idea. PAF was most Pro US organisation in Pakistan, by a long margin. Mainly due to history (CENTO, Sabre, F-104, training in US, exercises etc etc). F-16 mafia was very strong (to an extent still is) in PAF.

Now PAF has gone almost 75% Chinese and are falling overthemselves.

US is Pa's biggest export market and has sway with allies like Saudi and Turkey as well as the IMF so will always be important to Pakistan, but days of close military alliance are long long gone
Its not who I hang out with. Its the interviews I am watching with Pakistani civilian and military elites in last few weeks who are once again fawning over America like back in the 80s or early 2000s. They seem to have quickly forgotten how the US dumped Pakistan after its objective was achieved.
 
Elhamdullilah! They're still discarding the Pak capabilities and intents! They're focusing on the Pak-China cooperation....

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@Deino @iblini was that PL15 intact?

Does not matter. Missiles are designed knowing they may well fall into enemy hands

If India needa French source codes for Rafale to integrate weapons, how the hell will they be able to copy a PL-15 without them?

US/West has lost a lot of AMRAAMs, no one cared
 
Its not who I hang out with. Its the interviews I am watching with Pakistani civilian and military elites in last few weeks who are once again fawning over America like back in the 80s or early 2000s. They seem to have quickly forgotten how the US dumped Pakistan after its objective was achieved.

Can you show me one that fawns? All I see us Pakistanis appreciating Trump's role in making the Indians back down with trade threats
 
Disgruntled and rebellious Sikhs in Bharat is like a nightmare for Hindutva....
Not really, Sikhs throughout their history have proven to be more talk than anything else, they are great at suppressing less powerful adversaries but against superior numbers and state level machinery they've been subdued quite easily. Mughal kept them under check, as did the Marathas then English and now the Indian state.
 
Not really, Sikhs throughout their history have proven to be more talk than anything else, they are great at suppressing less powerful adversaries but against superior numbers and state level machinery they've been subdued quite easily. Mughal kept them under check, as did the Marathas then English and now the Indian state.

Sikhs talk a good game, make movies about how they fought tribesmen on the Frontier, carry symbolic swords, grow beards, chirp on about their martial prowess, yet for some reason never managed to have their own country.
 
Trump or the US dont give a crap about Pakistan. He is in a tussle with India over trade negotiations and uses Pakistan to take potshots at the Indians, since he knows it bothers them.

Its weird to see Pakistanis jumping up and down at just the slightest showing of interest by western gora sahab.

I don't think you understand the scope of the minerals Pakistan has. They are crucial for AI chips. US will be building AI datacentre cities. There will be a huge demand.

A lot invesment is about to flow in. This time its for real.

Why do you think India crossed the IB to sour this deal? It was unprecedented.
 
@Deino @iblini was that PL15 intact?


No, it was at best a burnt-out rear section, but indeed fragments of a PL-15's seeker were found.
But any claims, they found intact PL-15s are either wrong or at least are not proven based on the images shown.
 
Sikhs talk a good game, make movies about how they fought tribesmen on the Frontier, carry symbolic swords, grow beards, chirp on about their martial prowess, yet for some reason never managed to have their own country.
George Soros (a reknowned, anarchist and Global Macro hedge fund owner) has a Khalistani hand..

Canada thing was incited due to Adani frauds which hurt Soros interests.

Khlistani dudes have no bite, they are Ranjeet Singh followers who want pound of flesh..
 
Elhamdullilah! They're still discarding the Pak capabilities and intents! They're focusing on the Pak-China cooperation....

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Pakistan whole operation suhagraat was $200m in worst case scenario. Thats not imposing cost.

India fired $300m brahmos for minimum damage on runaways and hangar. Lost $2 billion aircrafts in process.
 
Pakistan whole operation suhagraat was $200m in worst case scenario. Thats not imposing cost.

India fired $300m brahmos for minimum damage on runaways and hangar. Lost $2 billion aircrafts in process.
no pak cost is higher, caused Pak let india go cheaply!
 

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