Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

I get the feeling the worst is over and Israel won't get another chance to deliver a blow like this again. But we can never underestimate them.

@ShapurII

Lol you don’t have an “national air defense” network. You absorbed 300 air strikes on the chin. Even Ukraine did better than this.

Remember when I said that there is no way in hell Iran’s IADS can hold up against a massive attack without a strong airforce?

Remember when I said we need S-400 and S-500 batteries because the S-300 order was not sufficient and Bavar was still in prototype stage?

Remember when I said there isn’t enough Iranian air defense systems to secure the skies as there has been little proof of them existing outside of some parades and satellite photos?

This government is incompetent, IRGC is incompetent, the military is incompetent. I have been telling this board (and the PDF version of it) since 2015 this was coming if we didn’t change course. No one listened. Everyone was high on copium.

Israel can attack Iran at will. And if Iran cannot fend off an Israeli attack, then it sure as hell will get steamrolled if the USAF is involved that much as clear tonight.

Now let’s wait for 7 - 14 days for Iran to lob some inaccurate missiles at Israel and act like it won the war.

 

[StormBreaker]

Will Pakistan stay neutral or will they assist Israel in taking out Iran's nuclear facilities

Why would Pakistan get into this mess when the irani leadership is just too unreliable?

 

[OldTwilight]

there goes my temporary optimism.

this can be a big wake up call.

Thats why I insisted that "WE SHOULD HAVE NUKES"

 

[Persian Gulf]

Confirmed military martyrs:

Hossein Salami
Mohammad Bagheri
Ali Shamkhani
Gholam Ali Rashid

Unconfirmed:

Amir Ali Hajizadeh
Esmail Qaani

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

We should declare marshal law and mobilize all army force to secure all critical site , now mossad agents are going to act ...

There is no option but a general mobilization. Either that or a miserable death... only leaders rise in these time... while cowards run the sky!

Our creed tells us to be ready, keep war steeds prepared to go...
Not be stung in the same hole twice!

No one can say that Iran didn't know, wasn't told, didn't expect this... it is a leaf from the same playbook. Yet found on heels ... reticent and lost.

As I have said before these borders protect only but one, zion. A concoction out of Europe.

There will NEVER be peace till it's very demise.

 

[mangekyo]

We need only one more angry statement from IRI and Israel will retreat

 

[battalion25]

Also Pakistan.

And Turkey and Pakistan are the two remaining Muslim powerhouses that can pose a threat to Israel.

Israel is a nobody and irrelevant.. IDF got decimated in this 2 year conflict but it´s daddy the US is a whole different stuff.

One most be able and de prepared to raise the entirety of Europe and North America to the ground first not Israel first but together at once to get Israel. It´s more like an American outpost

 

[RafaleSlayer]

They pulled their strongest attack in first punch, we didn't fall, so this already become a race of endurance ...

I can understand your defensive response, but seriously wars are never about being more enduring or more defensive, Wars are about violence of the highest order, no mercy, brutal annihilation of the enemy if you want to survive and live with honor.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Nobody was offering us fighter jets. Even Russia gave us a few Yak-130’s like you give a toy to a child to shut him up.

There was no SU-57, no SU-35, and no latest Chinese jets being offered.

I agree Iran needed an airforce and should poured tens of billions into a domestic program along with using Ukraine war to win much needed aircraft from Russia.

Instead what did Iran get for delivering S-136 to Russia? Gold? Iranian government decided to enrich themselves rather than focus on deterrence the last 7 years.

Could it be that Putin dragged his feet to provide the SU-57 and SU-35 just like he did with the S300?

 

[Michael]

The last time I said Iran need an air force, I was told that Iranian air defenses were enough, I got insulted constantly by Iranian nationalists, as well as Pakistanis who called me a troll.

What Iran and Pakistan truly lack most is “the war consciousness of the general public”!

Even with the best air force and air defense systems, Iran is still no match for Israel.

The core of war is “people.”

Let us set aside political/religious views and morality. When war comes, what is the reaction and attitude of ordinary Israelis? What is the reaction and attitude of ordinary Iranians? Let us look back at the previous Indo-Pakistani air war: what were the reactions and attitudes of ordinary Pakistanis?

When war comes, how many Iranians criticize their government and military? How many Pakistanis criticize their government and military?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Lol you don’t have an “national air defense” network. You absorbed 300 air strikes on the chin. Even Ukraine did better than this.

Remember when I said that there is no way in hell Iran’s IADS can hold up against a massive attack without a strong airforce?

Remember when I said we need S-400 and S-500 batteries because the S-300 order was not sufficient and Bavar was still in prototype stage?

Remember when I said there isn’t enough Iranian air defense systems to secure the skies as there has been proof of them?

This government is incompetent, IRGC is incompetent, the military is incompetent. I have been telling this board (and the PDF version of it) since 2015 this was coming if we didn’t change course. No one listened. Everyone was high on copium.

Israel can attack Iran at will. And if Israel cannot fend off an Israeli attack, then it sure as hell will get steamrolled if the USAF is involved that much as clear tonight.

Now let’s wait for 7 - 14 days for Iran to lob some inaccurate missiles at Israel and act like it won the war.

Israel doesn't have infinite supply of ALBMs and our leadership will not be sleeping in the same beds any more

you like to pat yourself on the back but it doesn't do much

 

[Watandar]

Also Pakistan.

And Turkey and Pakistan are the two remaining Muslim powerhouses that can pose a threat to Israel.

Turkey and Pakistan have never done anything against Israel and never will, because of their love of the West.

 

[Fatman17]

Can someone explain why Iran never procured modern weapons from Russia and China? Was there restrictions on those countries?

None at all. Russia had started delivery of MiG-35.

 

[That_Guy]

No israel will not stop here. They have gone after their top nuclear scientists as well. They are finishing them off, their relevant infrastructure and human resources. It's a very meaningful operation which will change the orientation of Iran sovereignty and nuclear capability all together. Going into history books how Israel did it

Its over exaggerated.

Human resources and material can and will be rebuilt. So long as the top leadership survives, and places of learning continue to thrive, it won't stop.

Israel's attack seems to have stopped, mostly because they can't sustain their assault. I doubt they got even half of Israel's nuclear assets.

 

[Menthol]

Erdogan must hurry up with KAAN, Altay, Kızılelma, Akıncı and the Steel Dome.

After Iran, next target is Turkey.

That is true!