Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

In the worst case scenario, will Khamenei ever surrender?
 
CrniLabud said:
Guys, no need to rush, this is not going to be a land war. Neither side will march an army, instead this will be an air, navy, cyber and eapionage war. The later can get legally messy, therefore, it is crucial to be level headed, calculated and to socialize the facts with the world. Last thing Iran needs is complete isolation considering how the US and Israel control information channels and narratives in the world. Iran also has to realize that longterm it cannot win or sustain a war with the US, therefore, the key is to survive and advance your goals, great casus beli for nukes, and even greater casus belli for some serious blows to israel.

Remember a few years ago how it was unthinkable to strike israel, but today israel is hit almost daily and it became a norm, a frog in boiling water. Let this slowly advance until one day israel has limited options and it is happening slowly.
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Irans defenses worked great a year ago. It looks like israel has worked tremendously in that past year to infiltrate Irans military circles and now what you see is that Irans own leadership are collaborating from within to allow Israel to destroy all of its capabilities uncontested.
 
OldTwilight said:
Did you work in any of Iran governmental office!? IF yes, then you know the manager are building their gang and try to micromanage everything through their Khay-e-mall , so in reality the mosaic doctrine never goes behind words ...
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happens every where!
dont judge people, keep biases out...
We, Paks, are very hurt..
 
Dariush-e Bozorg said:
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This lines up with what I’ve been saying for a long time — it’s not a sudden opinion.

People might are now realising that modern warfare has changed completely. In today’s battlefield, the first move isn’t sending aircraft to enemy space except for stealth plane — it’s stand-off missiles and drones targeting air defence systems and critical installations.

Once those are taken out, the next phase begins: airbases are struck, and aircraft are destroyed before they can even launch. That cripples a nation's air power from the ground up.

If you can’t protect your bases and critical infrastructure, you start losing capability — day by day.

Air defense systems is now the core of survival. If you can protect your skies, your firepower stays intact. If not, you’re already losing, no matter how strong your arsenal is.

I’ve said this before. I just didn’t expect to watch it unfold so soon, in real time. it is sad but true.
 
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....... I am 100% this happened.
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Makes me sick to be honest, best not to share anything from our eastern neighbour, let them pick up their dhotis and eat daal.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
please hold your horses for now, I understand the frsutration, anger and disappointment..
expect the best and pray... result will show, in time. Have some faith.
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No, it won't.

Israel is still reported striking Iranian missile sites, as well as other military sites.

Its already over for Iran.

By the time this is done, Iran won't have anything significant left to retaliate with.

The only ones who seem to be attacking Israel as militant groups in Iraq.
 
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Israel likely striking missile launchers

Iran forgot it has missile silos I guess
 
Persian Gulf said:
old generation IRGC cowards think war is like tennis game, one side attacks then waits for the other one to attack
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probably they would love playing Claire Obsecure: The Expeditaion 33 videogame( its turn based masterpiece)

anyway, there is no old generation IRGC left anymore ...
 
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as we now know iznotreal was in cahoots with india in attacking Pakistan last month. had iznotreal succeeded then this would have been the fate of Pakistan too.

But what planning are the two doing against Pakistan now? thats the unknown.
 
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as we now know iznotreal was in cahoots with india in attacking Pakistan last month. had iznotreal succeeded then this would have been the fate of Pakistan too.

But what planning are the two doing against Pakistan now? thats the unknown.
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this is old video.
 
There are only two real dangers for Iran in case of a full-scale war between Iran and Israel/USA

1) Israel or USA will use nuclear weapons
2) Iranian economic infrastructure will be destroyed by conventional airstrikes (and only US can do that)

The first danger may or may not be possible

The second danger can happen in case of war with US, but if US destroys Iranian economy, Iran will destroy Persian Gulf oil infrastructure and close the Strait of Hormuz and US and Europe will suffer much more economic damage than Iran
 
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