brazensword
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More like they can't.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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battalion25
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The issue comes down to Iran´s neglected airforce really..
This is what we learned from this round of skirmish it exposed Iran´s lack of airforce which is something only the hardcore military enthusiast knew like me, you and few weaponry fanatics on board.
But What Israel did is basically exploit this to it´s absolute best.
Now I am going to give you an example, during the 2010s the Iranian weaponry fans were rather just arrogant not productive they ignored this huge gap with saying or talking down to other countries who were actully humble and strengthening their countries responsible and in the right way by saying you just buy stuff and don´t reproduce but all Iran did was build rockets and missiles and these countries in the Mideast can develope that but they needed an actual airforce in the persent to close their airspace this is where Iran started lacking behind.
Example countries like Egypt build up their defenses, army and air force responsible with the right systems and they do have air-air missiles with better air defense systems etc etc. Countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar and Oman all have capability to close their airspace plus fairly modern airforce with Air to air missiles ranging from 200-300km meaning anyone entering their airspace could be downed including Turkey, Pakistan, India, Algeria, Japan, Morocco, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, Holland, Denmark, Belgium, Germany, France, UK, Italy, Spain, Greece (Yes @Foinikas has an airforce) and would have been capable of downing majority of these Israeli jets.
To also note here Taiwan has an airforce to deter fuking China not only on paper but actually in reality. They have over 250+ modern jets with air to air missiles which means China itself can´t have this kinda of free rein over fuking Taiwan´s airspace without taking a massive toll of downed fighters as well and entering dog-fight forget about the Mideast countries majoirty of them have air force because this is the wild wild west and the original heartland of Empires hence you have Turkey (Former global empire), Saudi Arabia (Former global Empire), Eygpt (Former global emprie), Syria-Jordan (Former global empire) and finally Iran (Former global empire) hence you would believe that a former global empire like Iran would equip it´s airforce fully knowing this is the wild wild west and lands of empires.
Thailand is not a war country nor located in the lands of former global empires but Thailand has an airforce and not Iran a former global empire and I mean a nation like Iran a historic nation and a previous empire but the Thai has it and I mean freaking Myanmmar has a better airforce then Iran forget Tiny Kuwait who will be armed to the teeth in comparison to Iran.
Iran´s defense industry has lacked humility and clarity to rebuild responsible and all their argument is you buy as if it is negative dude you gotta buy first what you can´t make and then try to make it.
Some people might think this is impressive what Israel has done but it really is not and to be honest it is like India bombing Sir Lanka as Sir Lanka has no air force it is equal to that.
The blame solely lays with Iran neglecting their airforce and Israel just exploited that
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Watandar
Trusted Member
Hezbollah fought for a year but was effectively wiped out in the end. Israel has been preparing for Lebanon and Iran wars for a long time.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
we did it! some more buried under the rubble still, maybe we get 2 for the price of 1...
Ali_Baba
VIP Member
Iran.
But right now, my tolerance of Iranian make believe and general "bullshit" is rather low seeing how Israel *********** Iran today. That is what it was. The entire command leadership was wiped out. Think about that for a minute.
brazensword
Registered Member
Seems Pakistan is safe because
Zameen mil banjar; hukmaran mile kanjar
tower9
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Iranian officials who spoke to Reutersshortly before the attack had been dismissive about any imminent action and repeatedly said talk of strikes was just “psychological pressure” to influence US-Iranian nuclear negotiations that were due on Sunday.Israel used long-planned subterfuge in attack on Iranian nuclear targets, Israeli sources say
Reuters
June 13, 2025
Rescuers work at the site of a damaged building, in the aftermath of Israeli strikes, in Tehran, Iran, June 13. — Reuters
Israel sent Mossad commandos deep into Iran to destroy Iranian weapons systems during Israel’s attack on nuclear and military targets, an Israeli security source said, while another official said Israel used a ploy to suggest the strike was not imminent.
The Israeli officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the clandestine nature of the operations, described secret and lengthy preparations that went into an attack that sent oil prices sharply higher on fears of regional escalation.
Reuters could not independently verify the accounts.
Iranian officials who spoke to Reuters shortly before the attack had been dismissive about any imminent action and repeatedly said talk of strikes was just “psychological pressure” to influence US-Iranian nuclear negotiations that were due on Sunday.
Iran has not given a detailed account of what its Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi called “unlawful and cowardly attacks”, but it has promised a harsh response. Iran’s mission at the United Nations did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Israel’s covert operation and other subterfuge related to the attacks.
Ahead of the strike, Israel gave the impression its focus was still on US diplomacy towards a nuclear deal with Iran, briefing journalists that its spy chief would go to Washington before the next negotiations.
Instead, Israel said it sent 200 warplanes to conduct a wave of air strikes across Iran before dawn on Friday, hitting nuclear facilities and missile factories, and killing military commanders and nuclear scientists, in a culmination of its efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Iran says its nuclear programme is purely civilian.
The Israeli security source said Israel’s military and Mossad had worked for years on the intelligence needed for the strikes, which killed the commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps among others.
Israel used long-planned subterfuge in attack on Iranian nuclear targets, Israeli sources say
Decision to strike Iran was made the same day Netanyahu and Trump spoke by phone, Israeli defence official says.www.dawn.com
God this pisses me off so much.
One thing that Jews and Chinese have in common is that both are hyper paranoid and neurotic people. They would never ever be this complacent.
Why the hell are middle eastern countries so goddamn complacent and unprepared? Wtf you literally are on knife’s edge with a dagger hanging over your head what the actual ****
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Iran crossed 'red lines' targeting civilian areas - Israel's defence minister
Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has said that Iran crossed "red lines" on Friday when its missiles targeted civilian areas in response to Israel's recent wave of attacks.
"Iran has crossed red lines by daring to fire missiles at civilian population centres in Israel," he said in a statement.
"We will continue to defend the citizens of Israel and ensure that the Ayatollah regime pays a very heavy price for its heinous actions," he added, referring to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei.
Earlier, Iran's Revolutionary Guard said that it was carrying out attacks against "dozens of targets, military centres and airbases" in Israel.
hussain0216
Elite Member
If it's the first day wave then it's fine
Iran best defence is OFFENCE
If Israel indeed is going to attack Iran numerous times, then Iran needs to be ready
In the initial attack, the surprise of the attack seems to have shocked Iran and the deaths led to partial paralysis of Iran
It seems to have woken up now and A.D seems to be doing a bit better
But Iran needs a mass of missiles at the ready to fire, so any attack is not left unanswered
Dimona, tel aviv, Haifa, Ben guirion all need to burn
Iran needs to understand a short one day response of a few hundred missiles is NOT ENOUGH
Even if some got through and caused damage and fear, ITS NOT ENOUGH
To establish deterrence, Iran needs a bigger more sustainable attack
For most countries this would be difficult
For Pakistan for example our airforce would take the lead
But iran works behind it's missile force and it's had plenty of time to build up numbers
So it should have sufficient numbers for a heavy attack multiple times
But this will last days, of not a few weeks and Iran cannot show weakness
All it's leaders and scientists need to be safeguard and a proper war plan put in place
Any BULLSHIT from liberal murtad types should result in brutal cruelty
Whatever differences someone has with the state, this is NOT the time to act stupid
Starlord
Trusted Member
So they are all talks, Israel really put them out, dang even hamas is fighting to this day despite been holding a smaller land, shame of hez and what a bunch of idiots.
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INT'L MOD
gamaji
Registered Member
You want Iran fighting against the whole world? The only sensible thing for Iran would be to keep it Iran-Israel conflict. Involving others (by attacking their interests) would only bring more death and destruction to Iran and more misery to Irani people.
On a more serious note, I see Iran getting into a stranglehold of UN imposed terms and conditions while foregoing/surrendering its right to nukes forever.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
I really hope that if the regime does fall, the next regime of Iran would help Israel bomb South of Lebanon, Yemen, Gaza and Iraqi militias to pieces. All of these useless leeches should pay the price.
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