Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

tsunset said:
Iran to soon leave the NPT and kick out Israeli IAEA nerds from Iran
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iran still taking about leaving NPT. By the time this loser Parliament and Security Council do leave they won’t have a nuclear program to even salvage.
 
OldTwilight said:
khamenei is want to play nice and keep negotioan door open ... looser mentality
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yeah and not just him. all IRGC are in control now they should take revenge for their martyred friends at least. unleash hell on the bastards while we still can.
 

Iran's strategy of digging down poses problem Israel may not be able to solve
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Joe Inwood
World news correspondent

Benjamin Netanyahu has long signalled his desire to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities, meaning Tehran has long prepared for any such attack.

From the very beginning, Israel targeted Iran’s air defences. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has released multiple videos showing missile batteries being destroyed.

This afternoon, IDF spokesperson Effie Defrin says Israel has “air freedom all the way to Tehran”.

But air defences are not the only thing protecting Iran’s extensive nuclear operations.

Many of Iran’s most important facilities are buried deep underground, protected by layers of earth and reinforced concrete.

The fuel enrichment plant at Fordow, for example, is thought to be around 80m (262ft) below the surface, while analysts say a new facility at Mt Kolang is even deeper.

Iran's main military facilities


Targeting sites like this requires specialist bombs, such as the GBU-57/B, or Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). Colloquially known as "bunker busters", this huge 30,000lb bomb is capable of destroying targets buried under about 60m of reinforced concrete.

But the US is not currently taking part in the strikes, and Israel does not possess the MOP.

As for what they do have, the most effective weapons they possess are the ROCKS or the Air LORA, air-launched ballistic missiles capable of destroying up to 6m of reinforced concrete.

According to Justin Bronk of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), attacking a deep facility with these would require multiple precise strikes at the same point to "burrow down".

With each strike destroying around 6m of concrete, reaching sites like Fordow or Mt Kolang looks like a remote prospect.

According to Alon Pinkas, who advised two Israeli prime ministers, Israel simply does not possess the stocks of munitions for the task.

The more realistic option would be to target entry and exit tunnels, rendering the facilities unusable.

The issue with this strategy, according to the RUSI report, is that Iranian efforts to dig down to the facilities and re-establish access "would likely begin almost immediately". All of which serves to explain why Bronk and others say destroying Iran's nuclear programme through military means is "not feasible". Undoubtedly it can be set back, especially through the extensive assassinations of top scientists, but as long as the regime survives, it will attempt to build back.
 
Immortals said:
iran still taking about leaving NPT. By the time this loser Parliament and Security Council do leave they won’t have a nuclear program to even salvage.
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remember, the most important thing to do when a nuclear armed Nazi regime declares total war against you is to follow the letter of international legal protocols!
 
Persian Gulf said:
so far they only launched 200 missiles in 36 hours... this is a very low rate

where are all the Shahab-3s we produced since 1998? fire them all at Tel Aviv immediately to deplete their interceptors. we are aiming at civilian neighbourhoods anyway and Israel started this by hitting our residential buildings.
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ffs why waste ammo on civilian neighborhoods?! I repeat myself: Industrial complex, financial centers, critical infrastructure! Hit them where it hurts goddammit
 
Dalit said:
You need this on a mass scale.
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Even a few dozen is sufficient to flatten tel aviv and turn it to rubble.

Who needs nukes when you can go conventional....

The benefits are:

- less global condemnation. You haven't breached nuclear threshold.

- nukes aren't actually that efficient....destructive power reduces significantly from centre. I surmise a wave of around 50-100 K4s evenly spread out will be far more devastating than a nuke.
 
What are the chances, IR expected attack and was only playing dumb..
but that came at a cost of bitter damage, now needs time to re-group!


I infer; this is the case!
 
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mangekyo said:
We are not a slave state. Mullahs are just terrible at picking friends.
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No, we really are.
Russia has been launching more Shahed drones than we are.
Russia has used our enriched uranium more than we have.
Khamenei is a Russian asset, like it or not.

Russia has kept us weak more than any other country in the world.
 
Path-Finder said:
oh come on mayn, oh come on dawg!

who is for the swap?

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Pakistan and Iran should do a prisoner exchange.
 
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