Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I'm afraid it's too late for that now. Iran should first retake her skies from the Israeli air force before we can assemble a nuclear device.

It's never too late. JUST DO IT!.

 

[Hayabusa]

This looks very bleak from Iran.

I was optimistic initially when they launched missiles. But Israel is able to pick up the launchers one by one.

Iran's air defences are also compromised.

I am at loss of words. It is disappointing that no one is helping our Iran.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Chemical weapons to nuclear weapons are like a fart against a thunder.

Egypt surrendered in 1980. They are now complicit in the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Completely irrelevant.

Iran does have conventional deterrence. Iran can completely destroy every critical infrastructure that Israel has and force them to stop the war. Yet, the decision makers in Iran do not dare to execute it because Israel is a nuclear state ruled by a mad dog who does what he says, unlike the Ayatollahs.

Israel is tiny. In the Israeli context, chemical weapons of wide-area effect can be dangerous, theoretically speaking.

 

[Immortals]

I'm afraid it's too late for that now. Iran should first retake her skies from the Israeli air force before we can assemble a nuclear device.

Retake her skies? With what? F-5’s? Helicopters? Passenger planes? The F-14’s are likely gone. The only asset was old MiGs which are probably destroyed as well.

Iranian Air Force probably fled to Pakistan to save what little hardware they have left.

Iran isn’t retaking their skies anytime soon if ever. Unless Pakistan Air Force comes to defend Iranian skies which is about as likely as Russia or China entering this war directly.

Iran is alone. Its proxies are dead. Dark days. Who knows if IRI survives this at this point. So far they have taken a lot of hits in Day 2 without any response.

 

[mangekyo]

A senior Iranian diplomat said Israeli agents have infiltrated the “highest offices” of Iran’s government through corruption, enabling strikes that killed top commanders in their homes and headquarters.

“Our government has been corrupted to the core. Israel has realized this and has been taking advantage of it for years,” the diplomat told IranWire.

“We all guessed in the past, but we now know that Israel has agents in the highest offices of the country. My friends in the Revolutionary Guards and Intelligence Ministry tell me that even counter-espionage units are filled with Israeli agents.”

The diplomat said Friday’s targeted strikes showed extensive infiltration and intelligence gathering.

“The type of operation that Israel carried out on Friday morning is the result of months, or even years, of preparation and intelligence gathering. It’s not something they planned and executed in just a few days or weeks.”

The source said finding security breaches is now a higher priority than retaliation.

“The main priority right now is not defending the integrity of the system or retaliation. Military and intelligence officials need to find the hole in the system first, and then make the next plans.”

“But corruption has turned our government into a sieve, so it’s very difficult to do anything about the holes.”

 

[Bilal]

The only way to deter at this point is to commit to heavy bombardment of Israel and hitting HVTs and special military assets.

Hit their airports (civil and military) and naval ports making it difficult to resupply Israel.

First order of the day should be to degrade their capabilities to conduct offensive operations. So those capabilities need to be hit.

 

[Aggregate]

I heard they have enough stockpile to fire about 500 missiles daily for a month... probably two

Precisely, remember that the West loves to undermine capabilities of their opponents. They have been shouting for the last 3 years on daily basis that Russia is out of Missiles/Tanks/Ammo and Russia instead keeps hitting them with more and more. They will similarly underplay Iran but the fact that Iran refused a ceasefire last night and decimated Tel-Aviv shows they know what they can do.

 

[ShapurII]

It's never too late. JUST DO IT!.

Help us get our enriched stockpile out of Fordow and Natanz, then sure.

We need to further process it to 90%, then convert it to uranium metal, then send it for assembly. But we must get it out of Fordow and Natanz. And I don't see how that's possible with Israel's air dominance now.

 

[Cryptonian]

Look at this

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Wtf, Is there something that Polymarket does not have bets over. Evilest form of capitalism.

 

[Yasser76]

Iranian President phones Pak PM and tells him Israel will get more severe response

Iran missiles cause multiple casualties after strikes in Israel

Strikes hit central and north Israel as the Israeli military carries out further attacks in Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Genuinely starting to feel like Pakistan and China are starting to openly side with Iran now

 

[battalion25]

Disagree. Egypt reportedly has a chemical weapons deterrent against Israel.

It would be wrong to assume the problem here was simply due to a lack of nuclear weapons — not saying they wouldn't be a detterent in themselves — but the problem here was conventional deterrence.

1. Iran was deeply compromised. Intelligence assets of the enemy had infiltrated and established themselves, were extracting information.

2. Iran had no answer to repulse air force attacks or at least make it far more difficult.

3. Missile-only deterrence is fundamentally limited. It's hard to hit things of value with extreme accuracy from a very long range, while also trying to bypass heavily defended air space.

You forgot to add the biggest of them all Iran has no airforce.. The biggest gaff it is like turning a turtle on it´s back

 

[tower9]

Wow! According to the Guardian Wang Yi phoned both Israeli and Iranian FMs. Told them both China would "support Tehran in “defending its legitimate rights and interests”,

Blasts heard in Israeli cities as missiles evade air defence systems – as it happened

This blog has now closed. You can find our new Middle East blog here

www.theguardian.com

China needs to use the railroad they built to Iran to supply military hardware and components in huge amounts ASAP.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Wow! According to the Guardian Wang Yi phoned both Israeli and Iranian FMs. Told them both China would "support Tehran in “defending its legitimate rights and interests”,

Blasts heard in Israeli cities as missiles evade air defence systems – as it happened

This blog has now closed. You can find our new Middle East blog here

www.theguardian.com

What are its "legitimate rights?" Means very little at this point

 

[SaadH]

Yeah Russia has nothing to give. Their stuck in their own quagmire.

Russians have been with the zionists this whole time. Dumbass arab regimes of the past and equally gullible Persians haven't been able to figure this out for the past 75 years. There's a reason Russia never delivered the su35s to Iran. You think Putin who talks to Satanyahu regularly would be able to face his master with a straight face.

 

[ShapurII]

Retake her skies? With what? F-5’s? Helicopters? Passenger planes? The F-14’s are likely gone. The only asset was old MiGs which are probably destroyed as well.

Iranian Air Force probably fled to Pakistan to save what little hardware they have left.

Iran isn’t retaking their skies anytime soon if ever. Unless Pakistan Air Force comes to defend Iranian skies which is about as likely as Russia or China entering this war directly.

Iran is alone. Its proxies are dead. Dark days. Who knows if IRI survives this at this point. So far they have taken a lot of hits in Day 2 without any response.

I know, which is why I said that every minute that passes and the leadership refuses to hit critical Israeli infrastructure, the regime gets closer to being toppled.

It is impossible to retake our skies without foreign assistance at this point.