Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

Retake her skies? With what? F-5’s? Helicopters? Passenger planes? The F-14’s are likely gone. The only asset was old MiGs which are probably destroyed as well.

Iranian Air Force probably fled to Pakistan to save what little hardware they have left.

Iran isn’t retaking their skies anytime soon if ever. Unless Pakistan Air Force comes to defend Iranian skies which is about as likely as Russia or China entering this war directly.

Iran is alone. Its proxies are dead. Dark days. Who knows if IRI survives this at this point. So far they have taken a lot of hits in Day 2 without any response.

And what point of having air force only in peace time !?

 

[Yasser76]

What are its "legitimate rights?" Means very little at this point

Similar language was used with Pak v India and Chind did a lot. Do not underestimate Chinese diplomatic language, they do not mouth off like the US/israel

 

[Gabriel]

Do not doubt! Iran has MASSIVE stockpiles of everything it produces but the absolute latest stuff that's yet not in serial production. Don't fall for the propaganda shown on social media and the MSM. The zionist entity has destroyed nothing of significance.
Rest in peace all the martyrs. Blessed are you in Allah's eyes!

Its Over, iran is defenseless right now. Its up to Iranian people now regime change or go down with current regime

 

[hussain0216]

The only way to deter at this point is to commit to heavy bombardment of Israel and hitting HVTs and special military assets.

Hit their airports (civil and military) and naval ports making it difficult to resupply Israel.

You have to hit Israeli HVTs, if they are trying to bring down Iran,, then you have to push for a complete conflict with no limits

Ben guirion

Israeli infrastructure, desalination plants, economic zones

Take the fight to your enemy or face the consequences

 

[BigMela2onin]

Similar language was used with Pak v India and Chind did a lot. Do not underestimate Chinese diplomatic language, they do not mouth off like the US/israel

Well I'll be happy to see it if true

 

[Yasser76]

China needs to use the railroad they built to Iran to supply military hardware and components in huge amounts ASAP.

Issue is what advanced hardware? Iran does not have the training or infrastructure for Chinas high end kit

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

If things remain the same, the regime will fall soon and it will be replaced with a pro-US regime. Iran will become a regional power again, but strongly allied with Israel and the US against Muslims.

Here is your problem... It doesn't matter to US or zion if Iran is Wilayat al-Faqih or secular, zilch!!!

But, it say you had shah and aiming for nuclear weapons... you'd be standing exactly at the same spot that the current regime is...

You think zionists are playing around? They knocked every secular regime around them just as hard as they're coming after Mullahs... I say Iranians.
Again, if there is nuclear fallout and much of Iran becomes uninhabitable, you think they care? Oh no we just wanted a favorable secular guys, seriously?

Yasser Arafat, the flag bearer and poster child of Palestinian resistance was secular! PLA was and is secular...

People seek an out and feel as if they conformed just enough they would be cherished and liked, be accepted. No such thing!
Show skin or all clad... bow and kiss the ring!
That is all!

 

[flyingorca]

Ceasefire now will mean surrendering to the US.

The choice is surrender or war with Zion. If war, as soon as Israel takes out all the air defences, long range missile sites, the US will move in to destroy Iran.

Surrender will lead to regime change and war will also lead to regime change... Unless Iran can pull out something spectacular that we've not seen before or Russia/China intervene directly, I don't see the coming days and weeks panning out in Iran's favour.

The longer the war goes the deeper hole Iran digs itself into.

 

[Yasser76]

Well I'll be happy to see it if true

We all would brother

 

[tower9]

Iranian President phones Pak PM and tells him Israel will get more severe response

Iran missiles cause multiple casualties after strikes in Israel

Strikes hit central and north Israel as the Israeli military carries out further attacks in Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Genuinely starting to feel like Pakistan and China are starting to openly side with Iran now

Lets hope so.

Russians have been with the zionists this whole time. Dumbass arab regimes of the past and equally gullible Persians haven't been able to figure this out for the past 75 years. There's a reason Russia never delivered the su35s to Iran. You think Putin who talks to Satanyahu regularly would be able to face his master with a straight face.

A lot of the prime real estate in Central Moscow and St Petersburg are owned by Jews. The Jewish business community is very powerful in Russia, though they are not comparable to AIPAC. They do have influence.

 

[Comandante]

Since I think this is a military forum, a few people should be ashamed of themselves. They cry, they tremble, they seek help from foreign powers, shame. This is how you should behave when there is a difficult situation, now is not the time for judgment, now is the time for solutions. If Iran successfully wins, it will have friends and allies, the loser is no one's friend. Therefore, everyone should pull themselves together, do their job as the air defense and the military do. The third plane has already been shot down and the pilot has been captured. This is the beginning of the end for Israel, they miscalculated properly. Are the Iranians trembling from a country the size of a major city? Every square meter of land is covered with missiles, Israel can act like Carthage, only it will not be sprinkled with salt.

 

[Falcon29]

Hezbollah was a very worth investment. However, they were fed to wolves alone. Nasrallah got complacent because of the success they enjoyed over the years just like IRGC did.

From 2005-2020 Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas were rapidly growing in power and had Israel surrounded.

Then 10/7 happened and Hamas decided it’s “now or never”. Iran backed off and didn’t join. Hezbollah joined in limited capacity and then Israel did its decapitation.

Now Iran has no HZ or Hamas or Syria. It waited too long to activate those assets. The time for war was 5 years or even as late as 1 year ago when Iranian embassy was bombed in Syria.

“Use it or lose it”

And Iran lost it. Now it faces the consequences.

Hezbollah after Imad Mugiyneh was useless (against Israel, for other purposes they helped). They don't know how to win influence and don't know how to utilize their military resources effectively.

Hamas was under a entirely different situation. A permanent blockade of Gaza which meant everyone in Gaza had no choice but to fight. Hamas preempted the inevitable.

It was coming. The US/Israel weren't going to tolerate Iran's nuclear program. Israel was fully prepared to wage a surprise assault on Hezbollah. Maybe Assad in Syria would have been spared. The Abrahamic Accords, etc.... writing was on the wall .... Iran and Hezbollah were going to come under attack.

Gaza was under attack and being given choice of permanent blockade or move out of Gaza and to settle somewhere in Sinai. Hamas did a preemptive strike that destroyed the prestige of the Israeli army and intelligence and showed Arabs and Muslims what can be done to Israel if you're motivated.

Problem is Arab and Turks did not care at all about changing strategic equation in region. It was a missed once in a lifetime opportunity. Arabs don't take initiative and region has been suffering for decades because of that. They used to. It's not because their ethnicity.

 

[Bilal]

Its Over, iran is defenseless right now. Its up to Iranian people now regime change or go down with current regime

There is a lot of psyops. It’s most likely not as you think.

 

[ShapurII]

Here is your problem... It doesn't matter to US or zion if Iran is Wilayat al-Faqih or secular, zilch!!!

But, it say you had shah and aiming for nuclear weapons... you'd be standing exactly at the same spot that the current regime is...

You think zionists are playing around? They knocked every secular regime around them just as hard as they're coming after Mullahs... I say Iranians.
Again, if there is nuclear fallout and much of Iran becomes uninhabitable, you think they care? Oh no we just wanted a favorable secular guys, seriously?

Yasser Arafat, the flag bearer and poster child of Palestinian resistance was secular! PLA was and is secular...

People seek an out and feel as if they conformed just enough they would be cherished and liked, be accepted. No such thing!
Show skin or all clad... bow and kiss the ring!
That is all!

The Americans helped Iran acquire laser isotope enrichment in 1975. Iran was the 3rd country in the world to have that technology after the US and the Soviets. They sent us 93% enriched uranium for Tehran's research reactor. They sold Iran F-14s and even were about to deliver us two aircraft carriers had the revolution not happened.

The Americans are doing the same with the Saudis now.

If you remain under the US control, the Americans do not mind sharing technology with you. The important thing is to stay under their control.

If Iran becomes pro-Israel and defends Israel, 90% of their problem with Iran will vanish over night.

 

[mangekyo]

How long can we sustain Israeli planes coming and going as they like and bombing our infrastructure?