Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[majesticpug]

You provided them logistics for the invasion of Afghanistan. You allowed them to bomb your civilians in 2003. Let's not digress. This thread is about something else, but stop seeing everything as it is about racism. It's usually, almost always, about money instead of racism. If the IR falls and a puppet regime by Reza Pahlavi is installed, we will HAVE to be pro-American and pro-Zionist.

If the Americans and the Jews are fed with money and feel safe from us, they will leave us alone. The same kind of deal they have with the Saudis. And we have enough natural resources to give them what they want, and some Iranians are even more pro-Israel than Americans and Indians. So, Iran by itself is not a threat to them if it turns into a puppet state.

How did cozying with the Americans and Israelis work out for you? You had years to upgrade your AD after the UN sanction was lifted. China signed a 25-years oil contract with you and you're the only ME nation securing a long-term contract from China despite immense pressure from the US.
When China pitched the J10C to you, you looked the other way and signed Su-35's. Where's your Su35 now? You also lined up behind India after the Indo-Pak war, giving India the rights to a strategic port.

You know, all these weird, strange actions or non-actions indicate to the world Iran is full of American-kissing puppets and cannot be a reliable partner in war or in peace.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Degradation was the objective. They essentially did all of this with suffering almost zero consequences at home front.

Here's the problem. Iran can go nuclear now and they have a casus belli... if it didn't before...
Zion couldn't finish the job it started ... not only the regime is intact but much of nuclear program.
Besides, on guard! The bluff has been called and no small talk now... zion has a war criminal calling the shots... wanted both inside and outside!

 

[Sarhang]

Pakistanis people also wish to defend their brothers and sisters in Iran but honestly what can Pakistani air force do against F 35s?

Help with intelligence atleast

 

[Immortals]

Are they launching from outside or inside Iranian airspace?

Both inside and outside

 

[That_Guy]

And Pakistan can actually destroy Israel if it came down to it. So what’s your point? You do realize with J35s coming Pakistans AF will be superior to Israel’s?




Disagree it would suppress and mitigate the current war when the costs become unbearable for the other side and when you remove the ability to wage the war.

It’s like Ukraine but in reverse.

If China, Pakistan, and or Russia get involved, you'll start seeing US, UK, and French boots on the ground. You might see the US start an invasion of Iran.

Also, Pakistan can't afford to get involved. It's already got it's hands full dealing with a fascist imperialist nation on its Eastern border.

 

[Dalit]

The fact there is not proof of even 1 Israeli aircraft being downed means Iran’s air defense network was absolutely garbage and fully infiltrated. Likely because these idiots used Microsoft Windows as their OS C&C.

Even Saddam downed more aircraft than this.

The Iranian leadership has squandered enormous chances and made huge blunders. In time of peace a country prepares in the best possible way for war. With the oil and gas resources that Iran possesses, a powerful air force with modern fighter jets could have been acquired. So much more could have been done to prepare for this day. I get a feeling that Iranian leaders have gravely underestimated Israel's desire for war. Completely unaware, unprepared and caught like a deer in headlights.

 

[muz]

Big whoop, Iran didn't have much of an Air Froce to begin with and the loss of its most capable and potent ADS early on meant this was pretty much a given.

I still remain skeptical until I see footage with my own eyes. Grainy IR footage tells you nothing if I'm being honest.

Nah i am pretty sure most of their aircraft were destroyed or damaged on the ground
as of now Iran evacuating its aircraft to Pakistan is still not confirmed

 

[Cash gk]

Yes. However a weak economy means immediate US sanctions, and perhaps a ceasing of financial aid from the Arabs.

This is not the time to think if and , but those who think if Butt they are fools

 

[Ali_Baba]

The Iranians have put their stealth detecting VHF radars like Matla-ul-fajr in the Horn of Africa with allies and they have a range of 500kms. As soon as F35 Adirs are airborne they are detected and tracked.

This is the might of the Shiites of Ali Ibn Abi Talib, the victorious Lion of God!

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Please stop trolling with all this nonsense.

 

[F-22Raptor]

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[RescueRanger]

If China, Pakistan, and or Russia get involved, you'll start seeing US, UK, and French boots on the ground. You might see the US start an invasion of Iran.

Also, Pakistan can't afford to get involved. It's already got it's hands full dealing with a fascist imperialist nation on its Eastern border.

Hello... Is it me you're looking for?

 

[muz]

Bullshit. It is a clever tactic to divert attention from their agents on the ground. Most of their attacks on critical infrastructure are done through mini drones.

They did suceed in neutrilizing airfields to a certain extent

 

[Aggregate]

Iran has no option for now, but to continue to counterattack Israel. Simply because it doesn't want to become a subservient client state where the West and Israel call the shots. The moment Iran gives in, the Israelis will claim victory and demand talks on their terms.

At the end of the day when the West decides that enough is enough talks might follow. These talks will take into account conditions from both sides.

Everyone is underestimating Iran if you go by their history alone.

• They endured US/Israel sponsored bombings done by Iraq, all oilfields destroyed, every day for 8 years and never surrendered until Saddam lost it all.
• they also endured 35+ years of sanctions to the teeth and did not buckle
• Why would they break down after just a few days of Israel's measly bombings compared to all else that has been done to them ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Israel claims it assassinated IRGC's intelligence chief

He didn't detect 70% of the entire Israeli air force taking off at once and flying to Iran or the Mossad drone factory freely operating inside Iran so that's not a big loss.

Or even the level of mossad infiltration that allowed them to build a drone base and factory inside Iran..

 

[PakAl]

It is in Pakistan’s own interest to make sure that the West and Israel fails in Iran. You know the consequences if Israel succeeds.

Possibly but if Iranian current government is pro India and Russia, also anti GCC then what can Pakistan do. Pakistan policy is different from current Iran, we want nothing to do with middleeast or Israel whilst Iran does. We could have been allies before the war if our interests aligned but they didn't. Israel has already succeeded, they are freely destroying Iran, they will destroy Iran nuclear and ballistic missiles capability, most likely target economic infrastructure and send Iran back 40 years, this will lead to Iranian government being toppled or Iranians will live like how Iraqis/Syrian lived and then after a decade remove the government.