Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Khansaheeb]

When you find out, please let me know too.

Inshallah, the wisdom will reach your ears and your mind.

 

[Unknowntruth]

You are entitled to your views, but it is equally clear that despite the huge disadvantage in military might, the Palestinians are gaining in public support all across the world. This, if resulting in cutting off Israel's lifelines of aid from abroad, will mean the end of Israel. So either Israel destroys the Palestinians by genocide, or it gets destroyed as a country if it fails. Hence my comment that it is an existential war for both.

What you said is you admitting that this is the path Israel has chosen to go. Palestinians have gained public support but western nations still fully back and arm them. Palestinians are under genocide while the West has done nothing to stop it. They have giving them the green light and full backing to whatever it wants to kill and displace the people of Gaza.

Till I see any concrete actions taking against Israel for their crimes then that public support right now is meaningless.

 

[VCheng]

Whatever the model is used by the Islamic nations to liberate Palestine the Muslim countries will need to use to liberate Kashmir and other Muslim people oppressed by occupiers. It's time for Muslims to rise.

Let me wait and see when that uprising happens. If not now, then when?

Inshallah, the wisdom will reach your ears and your mind.

Same to you too.

 

[VCheng]

What you said is you admitting that this is the path Israel has chosen to go. Palestinians have gained public support but western nations still fully back and arm them. Palestinians are under genocide while the West has done nothing to stop it. They have giving them the green light and full backing to whatever it wants to kill and displace the people of Gaza.

Till I see any concrete actions taking against Israel for their crimes then that public support right now is meaningless.

I think it was masterful strategy by the Palestinians to force Israel into this trap. The outcome will tell us all how wise it turns out to be.

 

[Unknowntruth]

I think it was masterful strategy by the Palestinians to force Israel into this trap. The outcome will tell us all how wise it turns out to be.

I wouldn’t call it a trap, it was more of a last ditch effort to try and change the status quo. Palestinian support had been either ignored or dwindled and Palestinians were watching a slow death under Israeli hands. They did their best to try and put the situation at the forefront for the world to act. The world is still asleep though and ignore the oppression, humiliation, and occupation they face.

 

[Khansaheeb]

I think it was masterful strategy by the Palestinians to force Israel into this trap. The outcome will tell us all how wise it turns out to be.

Seems like your belief is , no one should resist, and surrender is the only option: you sound Indian to me.

 

[VCheng]

I wouldn’t call it a trap, it was more of a last ditch effort to try and change the status quo. Palestinian support had been either ignored or dwindled and Palestinians were watching a slow death under Israeli hands. They did their best to try and put the situation at the forefront for the world to act. The world is still asleep though and ignore the oppression, humiliation, and occupation they face.

It seems to be a last ditch effort for survival by both sides for all the reasons you mention. How it ends and when it does so will become evident relatively soon.

 

[VCheng]

Seems like your belief is , no one should resist, and surrender is the only option: you sound Indian to me.

What I say is clear. What it seems to you is not my problem.

 

[Unknowntruth]

It seems to be a last ditch effort for survival by both sides for all the reasons you mention. How it ends and when it does so will become evident relatively soon.

It is not because Israel has the power to stop this and actually work towards a Palestinian state. They do not want that though. If it became about their survival it’s only because they chose to make it all or nothing which is in their hands not the Palestinians.

 

[VCheng]

It is not because Israel has the power to stop this and actually work towards a Palestinian state. They do not want that though. If it became about their survival it’s only because they chose to make it all or nothing which is in their hands not the Palestinians.

Israel will fight everything tooth and nail. That is a given. Whatever they concede, will have to be forced out of them. How that force is best applied is the discussion in my view.

 

[Khansaheeb]

What I say is clear. What it seems to you is not my problem.

clarity is only in the mind of the sane

 

[Unknowntruth]

Israel will fight everything tooth and nail. That is a given. Whatever they concede, will have to be forced out of them. How that force is best applied is the discussion in my view.

Well diplomacy hasn’t worked because they used Oslo to further enrich illegal settlements and control of West Bank. So what other avenue can Palestinians take?

 

[VCheng]

Well diplomacy hasn’t worked because they used Oslo to further enrich illegal settlements and control of West Bank. So what other avenue can Palestinians take?

That is not my call Sir. It is up to the Palestinians to decide however they may wish to proceed.

 

[Unknowntruth]

That is not my call Sir. It is up to the Palestinians to decide however they may wish to proceed.

This is precisely the problem. If the Palestinians had stayed under the same status quo they would be slowly dying. When Palestinians chose to change that status quo, people (the west) are now supporting their genocide.

 

[VCheng]

This is precisely the problem. If the Palestinians had stayed under the same status quo they would be slowly dying. When Palestinians chose to change that status quo, people (the west) are now supporting their genocide.

Clearly, the Palestinians feel that what they are doing is the only and the best way forward for them, and I support their right to decide for themselves however they wish to proceed.