Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds


No surprise Iranian jets haven't played much role​


Chris Partridge
BBC News weapons analyst

So far we've seen little, if any, action from Tehran's Air Force.

It comprises F4 Phantoms and a few F-14 Tomcats - Cold War era jets that have long been put out of active service by the US, plus Soviet-built Su-24, Su-22 and Mig-29 aircraft - the latter still in extensive use by Ukraine.

Arms import bans have severely hampered Iran's ability to modernise its military.

So it's no surprise that Iranian jets haven't appeared to have figured much in this conflict.

They'd be up against the latest 4.5th generation fighters in the shape of F-15s and F-16s - not to mention the 5th generation stealth F-35.

Modern jets armed with the latest air-to-air missiles would quickly defeat their Iranian counterparts.

A fighter aircraft is seen at the first underground air force base, called Eagle 44 at an undisclosed location in Iran
 
The SAMSON OPTION IS ONE OF THE MOST BS doctrine of Israel...
Holy Quran says that they wish for 1000 years of life...
Holy Quran can't be wrong so Samson option is nothing but an empty threat... BY ALMIGHTY it's the truth....
Now you understand why Pakistan is in the mix?

i can hardly believe what is Happening - we have a corrupt government/corrupt generals/we have plenty sold outs yet what i am not able to understand from where this is coming from.

How come we have grown a titanium spine!! not iron but a titanium spine.

i saw today Khawaja Asif who is our defense minister talking openly - which was not possible before. (do you think he can just talk like this without consent of Military Apparatus)

Times have really changed; Pakistan is Seriously pissed at Israel-Indian Nexus in 100 Hr War.

Basically, Pakistan with Nuclear Umbrella has become the Guarantor of Iran Territorial Sovereignty.
 
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Almost 4 hours and no Salvo by Iran. They cannot take this long to reload everytime.

Yes if they are avoiding IAF fighters who are hunting them.
 
BiBi genuinely wants to win this war by any means necessary he is unhinged.

This is Netanyahu's biggest gamble of his career. And it is the longest career of any Israeli politician, spanning 30 odd years. He wants to eliminate all the threats to Israel and taming Iran will be his greatest achievement. But if he fails on that after so much destruction in Israel itself in last few days, then he's politically cooked.
 
A ground invasion is a different scenario then what is happening now. I'm not convinced it will happen yet.
For the Iraq invasion there were literally hundreds of thousand of troops.

I cannot see a ground invasion.

No doubt whatsoever that there will be a full on Nato assault.
 
This is Netanyahu's biggest gamble of his career. And it is the longest career of any Israeli politician, spanning 30 odd years. He wants to eliminate all the threats to Israel and taming Iran will be his greatest achievement. But if he fails on that after so much destruction in Israel itself in last few days, then he's politically cooked.
I hope he dies of a heart attack.
 
Now you understand why Pakistan is in the mix?

i can hardly believe what is Happening - we have a corrupt government/corrupt generals/we have plenty sold outs yet what i am not able to understand from where this is coming from.

How come we have grown a titanium spine!! not iron but a titanium spine.

i saw today Khawaja Asif who is our defense minister talking openly - which was not possible before. (do you think he can just talk like this without consent of Military Apparatus)

Times have really changed; Pakistan is Seriously pissed at Israel-Indian Nexus in 100 Hr War.

Basically, Pakistan with Nuclear Umbrella has become the Guarantor of Iran Territorial Sovereignty.
Calm down sir, words and rhetoric are one thing......


Now is not the time to get carried away with big big claims


in fact, even entertaining them....
 
This is Netanyahu's biggest gamble of his career. And it is the longest career of any Israeli politician, spanning 30 odd years. He wants to eliminate all the threats to Israel and taming Iran will be his greatest achievement. But if he fails on that after so much destruction in Israel itself in last few days, then he's politically cooked.
or he could become 'godzilla' by breathing atomic fire! (meshiah)
 


Iran effectively blind to Israeli threats from air​


Chris Partridge
BBC News weapons analyst

Earlier, Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel has secured a "free highway to Tehran", referring to the Israeli air force's aerial superiority - here’s a look at how this could be possible.

It took Israel less than 48 hours to achieve air superiority over a crucial swathe of Iran.

From the west of the country through to Tehran, the coast has been cleared for Israeli jets to operate without impediment.

Israel's air-to-surface missiles from aircraft, and drones launched separately inside Iran, attacked early warning (EW) radar sites and neutralised surface-to-air missiles.

SEAD / DEAD missions – Suppression or Destruction of Enemy Air Defences - as they're described in the military, knocking out a vital component of defence.

With Iran's air defences and early warning system neutered, it has been rendered effectively blind to incoming threats. That's the worst-case scenario for a country when the use of air power decides the outcome of conflicts.
 
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There's only one US carrier (Vinson) and was extended until July few months ago she will be replaced by Nimitz that is heading there. The other carrier is HMS Prince of Whales and that's not a real carrier especially with the small number of F-35Bs it carries.
 
incredible that it is even a debate

if Khamenei had any balls he would have said **** the NPT and ordered all remaining scientists to work on nukes in bunkers immediately 24/7

Maybe just maybe for once, you should think as to why He’s made that decision or officials from your government keep mentioning the Fatwa ?

Is Khamenei an idiot ? Is the Iranian leadership so powerless or loyal to the point of subvervient that they aren’t going against his decision or trying to move him out of the way when leadership personalities are losing their lives left, right & centre ?

Look at the larger Geo Political picture & put 2 & 2 together.

Keep calm & carry on brothers.
 

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