Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Whirling_dervesh]

Why do you think restricting access to the media means something as drastic as 'winning' or 'losing'? Controlling media is one more tool nations have in their arsenal. All nations.
I don't know what's going in the current confrontation. I tend to think Iran has been greatly battered but far from defeated. But Israel is also significantly battered: They will not forget dozens of buildings in their prized Tel Aviv destroyed. How many more will contemplate leaving permanently the shitty, arid hot country with so many hostile neighbors? Yesterday a blogger said that Cyprus alone has 100,000 Israeli migrants in such a small country.
So the game is still on if the Iranians want to play it. They have the two binary choices as a Russian poster said a few pages ago. It is their choice. We Pakistanis will support them and wish them well.

Lets see if the Iranians if they can retain asymmetrical potency. They gave up their airspace in 2 days, their planners must have known this would be inevitable, with loss of syria

Either iranians are biggest frauds out there or they are willing to drag down the whole of Nato into a quagmire. I just pray they have had a contingency plan to keep their missile forces going for months.

I dont see american or nato boots on ground. It will be aerial bombardment and destruction.

Hope they had planned a long campaign otherwise they should have accepted a deal

 

[Taimoor]

4-5 hits, drones or missiles?

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That is the most beautiful thing I have seen in a long time. Direct hit on Mossad building. Israel must be decapitated.

Israeli weapons manufacturing facilities needs to be demolished as well. India will almost instantly will become orphan.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

That is the most beautiful thing I have seen in a long time. Direct hit on Mossad building. Israel must be decapitated.

Israeli weapons manufacturing facilities needs to be demolished as well. India will almost instantly will become orphan.

Rafael Military Factory was hit in Haifa

 

[Master Chief]

In 1982 the domino plan was established by Zionists for the greater Middle East

Everyone said was a conspiracy theory and laughed

Now all the conspiracy theories have been proved correct over the last 40 years killing over 2 million Muslims

They called for destruction of nations like Libya , Yemen , Lebanon , Palestine , Iraq, Iran and in the end Pakistan

Israel wants to be able to fly anywhere in these nations bomb and return whenever it likes

All of the above are done and Iran is close for sure Pakistan is next

Rather be clever and intelligent these nations should have united but instead they were picked off one by one

Iran is now probably going to get nailed for sure

Guess who is next ? Pakistan

You can call it a conspiracy theory you can call whatever you like but it is now become fact

Facts don’t lie and just google Netanyahu interview from 1982

Pakistan will be easier to destroy because Pakistan has too many traitors and many ethnic and religious fault lines

They will probably take Pakistan down very easily easier than Iran

Ask the citizens of the above destroyed nations how they feel about the home of thier forefathers and ancestors they will tell you sad stories

I hope I don’t have to do that one day

Not a conspiracy. Cold, hard truth.

However I disagree that it will be "easier" to take Pakistan down in this way.

It will actually be impossible because of Tel Aviv's own strategic miscalculation.

The wailing harpies to our east are a new addition to this Israeli trans-generational plan.

Their very presence has actually hindered Tel Aviv's designs against Pakistan.

Although there has often been self-destructive confusion in Pakistan regarding the west's "carrot and stick" approach for many decades, not 1 inch will be yielded to the violent neo-colonialists sitting in Delhi since 1947. Pakistan is wholly united against that specific threat, not least because there is zero confusion about Delhi's true intentions (and there is zero confusion because Indians are rather stupid and choose to regularly reveal their full intentions like some Bollywood script dump).

So, in enlisting the chai walla and his nation of baying imbeciles, Israel has actually harmed its own design irrevocably.

The lesson for Tel Aviv is: never work with amateurs.

 

[ashley.1965]

Insha'Allah, Iran will come out of this as it has done many a times in the past and when it does, Pakistan as a brotherly nation will advise them to shift their policy towards China like Pakistan has done and modernise it's entire military.

No, mere advise will no longer work.

Insha'Allah it will now have to be full integration and interoperability between our militaries and our economies - and this must not merely be limited to Iran-Pakistan but the entire bloc of the lands of Islam.

The way it would have been if European colonizers had not partitioned our lands under their concept of the nation-state.

It's either that or we continue to live under their domination for another few decades/centuries.

 

[Ali_Baba]

FM is by far suspected here in forums by many as he is continuously asking ceasefire ceasefire

That is his job, and diplomacy mandates such etiquette for requests of ceasefire even if the intent is there or not.

It all comes down to if Iran has the ability to stay in the ring or not. Israel has a budget of time/weapons/resources for 3 weeks of conflict at this level as even the Orange idiot has mentioned himself a few times. At that 3 weeks, does it stop or does Iran step up and stretch it to 3months?

The targeting of the TV station, infrastructure, killing leaders is an attempt to force a conclusion quickly in my view. It is desperation to force Iran to react in ways that Israel wants it to react.

The American assets will take 3 weeks to arrive and be put in place, and the Americans have a decision to make on war or not at that point.

China would do well to ship some "serious top end" anti-shipping missiles to Iran to see if they work against the Americans or not, esp the aircraft carriers. Such information will be useful for the show down in Taiwan. In the same way that the PL-15 has been validated, it might time for another of China's anti-ship "quivers" to be shot to see if they can find their mark.

People here have made comment of Pakistan should help, and it obviously cannot help from a kinetic perspective, and it cannot help from munitions supply given the incompatibility of what Iran uses, versus what Pakistan has.

What Pakistan "can" help on is military intelligence on the battlespace, gathering all the data and giving the Iranians a consolidated view of what is happening around them, where the assets are and what they are doing. It is a good workout for Pakistan's military and such information by its nature would be difficult to trace back to Pakistan in normal circumstances..... The risk is that Iran is "so infiltrated" that potentially such help cannot be kept a secret due to mossad agents in Iran's military hierarchy.

Pakistan does need to repay a few favours to Israel, and this is one way to do it that is at low cost to itself.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Psyko70]

That is his job, and diplomacy mandates such etiquette. It comes down if Iran has the ability to stay in the ring or not.

You are right I am wrong here. Sitting here in comfort and such speculations is wrong I am deleting the post.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Not a conspiracy. Cold, hard truth.

However I disagree that it will be "easier" to take Pakistan down in this way.

It will actually be impossible because of Tel Aviv's own strategic miscalculation.

The wailing harpies to our east are a new addition to this Israeli trans-generational plan.

Their very presence has actually hindered Tel Aviv's designs against Pakistan.

Although there has often been self-destructive confusion in Pakistan regarding the west's "carrot and stick" approach for many decades, not 1 inch will be yielded to the violent neo-colonialists sitting in Delhi since 1947. Pakistan is wholly united against that specific threat, not least because there is zero confusion about Delhi's true intentions (and there is zero confusion because Indians are rather stupid and choose to regularly reveal their full intentions like some Bollywood script dump).

So, in enlisting the chai walla and his nation of baying imbeciles, Israel has actually harmed its own design irrevocably.

The lesson for Tel Aviv is: never work with amateurs.

No see the real picture

The west are establishing The New World Order(NWO) Remember this

The Zionist West Have collaborated to inflict pain upon every country and beat them into submission, whether with peaceful means, or militarical means


The world is about to become a totalitarian government. Wake up

 

[tsunset]

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Iranians are more united than ever since 1979, even while IRI rules

With each bomb impacting on civilians, more people with will be united

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

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Very nice very nice

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Iranians are more united than ever since 1979, even while IRI rules

With each bomb impacting on civilians, more people with will be united

Exactly, the zionist people dont have the same mindset their promised land is being damaged and its only a matter of time netanyahu that dajjal is overthrown(May Allah give him the most painful end)

 

[Developereo]

So, in enlisting the chai walla and his nation of baying imbeciles, Israel has actually harmed its own design irrevocably.

The lesson for Tel Aviv is: never work with amateurs.

India is an expendable distraction.

The real attack will come from the west (directly from Israel) or the south (using US airbases in UAE).

 

[Developereo]

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Never, ever, ever trust a single word Trump says.

 

[HAIDER]

Interesting analysis, but in Urdu . Now, everyone is endorsing that Muslim countries must have nukes.

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