Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[sharreman10]

Quiet today too, maybe de-escelation? Or calm before the storm. I don't know. Strange situation right now.

 

[FHN]

iran should kick out all the pxxpjeets that live in Iran, spying for Israel

 

[Vox Non Dei]

have you noticed Indians on this thread are very quiet. lol

Imagine, god forbid Changdu is getting bombed. Indians are living their worst nightmare now.

There is a bigger reason. most have been thread banned.

What does that mean? Can't understand a word of what he's trying to say

That my friend, is a goading to drop something BIG on Iran. MOAB or worse nuke.

Do remember, while declaring war or peace in America is congress's decision. Decision to use nuke is fully president's. Nukes in america are President's weapons.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Quiet today too, maybe de-escelation? Or calm before the storm. I don't know. Strange situation right now.

My own guess? And, it's a guess only.......Iran and the US are talking.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Quiet today too, maybe de-escelation? Or calm before the storm. I don't know. Strange situation right now.

Scenario:
Just a wait for Tanker and Aircraft carriers 2-3 week arrival time
They have done it in past as well with Syria or Iraq crisis, wait for more weapons to arrive before , air superiority mission is launched for destruction of city. Often it is mention lets discuss peace but these asset are moved in with Cruise missiles

Right now Iran is in advantageous position , and they should exercise their point of view and , dismantle Israel Terrorist infrastructure

Israel in past has also used this delay to stage a attack in past (Point Understood)

• Use the advantage complete the work to de-fang Israel
• Open the blocked aid walls blocking aid to Palestine
• TV station or radio etc it is up to Iran to decide it is their call

There will be lot of time to discuss peace, make sure China-Russia are involved as mediators, keep the planes coming from China/Russia with goods

 

[samejjangir]

No it can't

It would need a base of operations, where it would need to build up hundreds of thousands of soldiers if not over a million to take on a large nation like Iran

Any base within range would be blasted off the face of the earth by iran

USA has bases in 3 of the surrounding countries. They are also not going to go in blind. If the US were to get involved they would first nullify Irans military bombing all assets/launchers. Then they would invade at their pace and get to Tehran in no time.

Besides, they may not even do a ground invasion if they got involved. USA hold the most advanced bunker buster bombs that would be lethal to hidden assets.

The long story short is US better not get directly involved in this or it would truly be devastating for Iran.

The Arabs are not willing to let USA use their bases to destroy another muslim state in middle east and cause mayhem. The invasion of Iraq by USA by giving false pretext of nuclear weapons was the last straw that broke their patience limit. Once it was found that Iraq had no nukes, Arabs were enraged and caused the 2008 oil price spike to bring crisis in USA and also shifting the economic power to China to replace USA. The 2008 crisis was a message sent by Arabs to USA to stay in line if the west wants its oil & petrodollars. So, USA really can't afford to fight Iran without the Arabs allowing that.

 

[mangekyo]

The Arabs are not willing to let USA use their bases to destroy another muslim state in middle east and cause mayhem. The invasion of Iraq by USA by giving false pretext of nuclear weapons was the last straw that broke their patience limit. Once it was found that Iraq had no nukes, Arabs were enraged and caused the 2008 oil price spike to bring crisis in USA and also shifting the economic power to China to replace USA. The 2008 crisis was a message sent by Arabs to USA to stay in line if the west wants its oil & petrodollars. So, USA really can't afford to fight Iran without the Arabs allowing that.

IRI is a threat to Arab monarchy and Turkish expansionism. They are more than happy to see IRI fall.

 

[Haz]

The Arabs are not willing to let USA use their bases to destroy another muslim state in middle east and cause mayhem. The invasion of Iraq by USA by giving false pretext of nuclear weapons was the last straw that broke their patience limit. Once it was found that Iraq had no nukes, Arabs were enraged and caused the 2008 oil price spike to bring crisis in USA and also shifting the economic power to China to replace USA. The 2008 crisis was a message sent by Arabs to USA to stay in line if the west wants its oil & petrodollars. So, USA really can't afford to fight Iran without the Arabs allowing that.

You are grossly underestimating the treachery of the current gulf regimes.

 

[Bharatah]

The defense systems of "Israel" collapsed in 2/3 days, so MAGICALLY in the controlled media, the war is no longer "Israel vs. Iran" but TRUMP, the USA... Etc... However, this makes no difference because all the technology that the USA has, Israel is already using. The USA also used it against Yemen(Including B-2 bombers and nothing helped) and it did nothing, so it makes no difference unless:

1- They drop an atomic bomb on Iran, which opens the door for nuclear revenge against them.

2- They invade Iran with 300 thousand soldiers, which is IMPOSSIBLE and UNFEASIBLE today because there is no structure set up for this, and the countries that provided support would be attacked and there would still be popular revolts.

Therefore, whether the USA bombs or not, it makes no difference, suddenly the "Israeli" soldiers themselves are more capable of using these technologies than the USA's.

The Zionists are afraid and are using the TRUMP CARD

 

[mangekyo]

I really wish we had been collobrating with Israel. We would get our F-35s.

We were kicked out of the program because of Erdogan's love for Arabs. He loves Arabs more than they actually love themselves.

No hard feelings. It’s just politics. Iran is a threat to Turkish expansionism. Simple as that.

 

[Falcon29]

Tasnim News Agency: An Israeli drone was spotted in Malayer and destroyed before reaching its target.

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[shapurzolaktaf]

In terms of military strategy, If the USA does enter this war, then Iran should tell the GCC countries that if they keep their oil tankers at the home port locations and do not attempt to transport their oil, and shut down the operations of USA bases for the duration of the war, then Iran will not attack their facilities.

This gives the GCC countries a way out to not get expensive facilities attacked, but allow Iran to apply global pressure as the cost of the war. There will be no need to have a kinetic war if the cost of the war itself forces the likes of Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, UAE to pause their oil operations. If they break that request, then Iran can attack the violators.

Iran may struggle to fight a long distance war with Israel, but it is more than capable of fighting a near location war much and exert a significant cost on the western economies that are dependent on oil.

Exactly:

1. a message should be delivered to gcc, shut off the oil, your installations will be spared.

2. Don't allow any jet landing or taking off from your territory else all airports, seaports, runways will become target.

 

[Dark Knight]

If the Arab nations don't toe the line, America will set them against one another like he did with Saudi Arabia and Qatar in his first term.

Before you know it another Arab spring.

 

[tsunset]

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I'll edit if its a false alarm

 

[Sinan]

No hard feelings. It’s just politics. Iran is a threat to Turkish expansionism. Simple as that.

Let's not argue about who is wrong , who is right. No need to derail the subject from the topic.