Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Indians on the web will be forever in pain to swallow this fact that their pride got smashed to the core and the Western commentators are still coming to terms that Pakistanis did what they did. this US Navy Aviator is much more generous in his praise for Pakistani forces compared to some other Tom cruise style younger American pilots turned youtubers who still express amazement and wonder how PAF knows western tactics and terms although knowing well PAF is user of American jets for decades and has trained with them..
It's not their fault. The problem is that the western world cannot fathom the fact that 3 of their Best aircraft have been shot down by "cheap and inferior " quality Chinese aircraft.
 
A french news paper :

"As the Paris Air Show at Le Bourget in Paris opens, the Rafale will be the talk of the show. The flagship of French manufacturer Dassault Aviation was engaged in combat against Pakistan during Operation Sindoor on May 7. While one of these aircraft was destroyed, the raid led by India appears to have been a success."
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"In military matters, there is "know-how" and "knowledge." It seems that New Delhi has neglected the latter. As soon as the air raid ended on May 7, a vast information campaign led by Pakistan, with the support of China, attempted to impose two ideas: India had lost a large number of aircraft during Operation Sindoor, including several Rafales, and the Chinese aircraft equipping the Pakistani Air Force had outclassed their adversaries.

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"For Operation Sindoor, New Delhi wanted to prevent the conflict from escalating. India therefore warned Islamabad that strikes would be carried out. The Pakistani military therefore knew where and when the Indian response would occur. But since 2019, two capability-related factors have come into play: in the meantime, New Delhi has acquired the Rafale, and Islamabad has received military support from Beijing.
However, the Western military personnel who have drawn up the military assessment of Operation Sindoor do not reach the same conclusion at all: "Sindoor was a total victory on the tactical level and a complete failure in terms of communication which is almost equivalent to a defeat," they say."
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9 Targets in the Indian Air Force's Sights
On the night of May 6-7, 2025, the Indian Air Force conducted its raid with very ambitious objectives and a deliberate risk-taking that allowed for crew losses. In their sights were nine targets: armed group training camps, a Pakistani army command and control center, ground-to-air systems, and surveillance radars.

The 60 Indian aircraft involved, including Rafales and Mirage 2000s, had planned three waves of bombing to reach their targets. One round was enough. "They arrived as if they were in a boxing ring, in a very restricted area. They were eagerly awaited by the ground-air defense and 40 Pakistani aircraft. Despite this, they hit all the targets!" says an observer very close to the case."
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"Sindoor was one of the largest air battles since World War II. It resulted in an Indian victory, leading to a rapid de-escalation between the two belligerents. "They demonstrated the weakness of Pakistan's defenses," military sources said. "They lost only a few aircraft, while Pakistan lost more than ten."

While it has been confirmed that a Rafale aircraft was destroyed, doubts remain as to the cause of its destruction. The aircraft may have been the victim of friendly fire."
The last 2 paragraphs are such cope

How can pakistan ever hide 10 aircraft loss, its impossible to do so India could barely hide 6.
 
A french news paper :

"As the Paris Air Show at Le Bourget in Paris opens, the Rafale will be the talk of the show. The flagship of French manufacturer Dassault Aviation was engaged in combat against Pakistan during Operation Sindoor on May 7. While one of these aircraft was destroyed, the raid led by India appears to have been a success."
...
"In military matters, there is "know-how" and "knowledge." It seems that New Delhi has neglected the latter. As soon as the air raid ended on May 7, a vast information campaign led by Pakistan, with the support of China, attempted to impose two ideas: India had lost a large number of aircraft during Operation Sindoor, including several Rafales, and the Chinese aircraft equipping the Pakistani Air Force had outclassed their adversaries.

...
"For Operation Sindoor, New Delhi wanted to prevent the conflict from escalating. India therefore warned Islamabad that strikes would be carried out. The Pakistani military therefore knew where and when the Indian response would occur. But since 2019, two capability-related factors have come into play: in the meantime, New Delhi has acquired the Rafale, and Islamabad has received military support from Beijing.
However, the Western military personnel who have drawn up the military assessment of Operation Sindoor do not reach the same conclusion at all: "Sindoor was a total victory on the tactical level and a complete failure in terms of communication which is almost equivalent to a defeat," they say."
...
9 Targets in the Indian Air Force's Sights
On the night of May 6-7, 2025, the Indian Air Force conducted its raid with very ambitious objectives and a deliberate risk-taking that allowed for crew losses. In their sights were nine targets: armed group training camps, a Pakistani army command and control center, ground-to-air systems, and surveillance radars.

The 60 Indian aircraft involved, including Rafales and Mirage 2000s, had planned three waves of bombing to reach their targets. One round was enough. "They arrived as if they were in a boxing ring, in a very restricted area. They were eagerly awaited by the ground-air defense and 40 Pakistani aircraft. Despite this, they hit all the targets!" says an observer very close to the case."
...
"Sindoor was one of the largest air battles since World War II. It resulted in an Indian victory, leading to a rapid de-escalation between the two belligerents. "They demonstrated the weakness of Pakistan's defenses," military sources said. "They lost only a few aircraft, while Pakistan lost more than ten."

While it has been confirmed that a Rafale aircraft was destroyed, doubts remain as to the cause of its destruction. The aircraft may have been the victim of friendly fire."
🙈😂🤣Reads like a Bollywood script. Little details like PAF has openly stated that they only engaged the IAF jets once they fired at targets in Pakistan totally ignored🙈10 PAF jets over populated areas and yet not a single pic🙈Not even claimed in interviews by their FM or their DGMO. If you’re going to make stuff up at least all do it so it’s more plausible. Both France and India are desperate to cope with and do best they can to hide their well deserved humiliation so perfect partnership indeed. Amusing how they graciously accept ‘1’ Rafale and ‘a few’ aircraft lost😂
 
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Good analysis by Bronk. Two of his best points were
A.) 1 Rafale lost, the 03 number is wrong.
B) IAF hit deeper on multiple targets on 09-10 May without any losses, thus IAF adapted tactics very quickly.
 
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It's a message to "Ali Baba" Netenyahu after his "Temu" version (aka Modi) has got his a$$ handed over to him on a platter decorated with cow dung. Morning shows the day.....

Hey @Hakikat ve Hikmet - Is this addressed to me ? I am not sure i follow or fully understand the comment if it is towards me.
 

Is this why India launched precision strikes on Nur khan air base
And USA forced a cease fire very soon after Brahmos strikes at this base
What is vital there that USA is involved
Who is imitiaz gul Pakistani analyst
 
Good analysis by Bronk. Two of his best points were
A.) 1 Rafale lost, the 03 number is wrong.
B) IAF hit deeper on multiple targets on 09-10 May without any losses, thus IAF adapted tactics very quickly.
Seems you actually missed the best points
A> At least one Rafale confirmed meaning possibility of more !
B> 2 Pilots recoverd that could only belong to SU-30 or Rafale
C> A MiG-29 also confirmed shot down
 

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