Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

I am paraphrasing here:
Trump: I may or may not strike nuclear facilities, and Iran should have negotiated with us previously.
Trump: It's too late, but there's still time to stop the war.
Trump: I've had enough of Iran. I want unconditional surrender.
Trump: Next week will be decisive regarding Iran, and it may happen before the end of the week.

Now add to this little cheeky slip of the tongue:
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And there we have it.

Thanks bhai. I always prefer the Cliff notes.

I'm still shaking my head over the slip of the tongue.

 

[Nevsky]

Trump said that Putin offered help to resolve the situation yesterday night.

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[mulj]

As I said multiple times in the India-Pakistan conflict thread: Indian workforce should be as thoroughly kicked out of the Middle East as possible and replaced with Pakistanis, Bangladeshi.. anyone but Indians. There is potential of tens of billions of $ for Pakistan via remittances if that happens, which would be a game changer for Pakistan's economy. And, yes, Pakistan has too much surplus labor to worry about 'brain drain'. Most poor countries of the world may complain about 'brain drain' but don't mind getting the $$ AND fresh discourse/tech from their expats.

Not gona happen, poor indian muslims need those jobs...

Spot on. Problem with Persians is, they are stuck in the ancient past, bloated egos based on past achievements, not present day realities.

Now chickens are coming home to roost, I hope and pray they survive this ordeal. This will be a shock to their system and mentality, they stay humble from now on, and focus on creating strategic arrangements with Pakistan and China. Have strong bond with your neighbour first so no one can fk around you from distant lands.

Those chinese lady is not stupid and gave precise overview and you yourself gave correct course of action if IRI survive this war but first day after the war lot of pro western liberal establishment in Iran has to be purged and some heads to roll.
Iran was always east through the history and flirting with western culture and striving towards it is strange anomaly, sadly through diaspora toxic western influence gained strong roots there and unintentionally in certain extent drove official policy of state.

 

[Tamerlane]

We are paranoid. A rogue state like Israel is allowed to brandish its nukes and goes around bullying and terrorising the region - yet this genocide state is allowed to keep them?
Its seems when it comes to Israel - all animals are equal BUT some are more equal than others.

Muslims are psychologically too much under the influence of the white man. Our arguments are all based on crying about the injustice done to us. We need to break out of that mentality and take charge. Instead of complaining we need to impose our will, if not on the world, then at least in our own region.

Israel is a crusader-imposed murderous entity that must go. All strategy from now on must be made towards achieving that end. No more whining and complaining to organizations like the UN that controlled by the enemy. We need to make our own decision about what needs to be done and then execute that decision. What the enemy thinks about it is irrelevant.

As 2 billion people, or 25% of the world’s population we need to take our destiny into our own hands.

 

[RescueRanger]

Thanks bhai. I always prefer the Cliff notes.

I'm still shaking my head over the slip of the tongue.

You are most welcome. And yes for people like me that little nugget was a goldmine.
I love the internet.

 

[Olympus81]

Simultaneous airspace opening would mean a deal has taken place.

Remains to be seen if Iran will keep nukes for peaceful purposes, but looks unlikely.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Yep, hopefully no sanctions and no nuclear program in the country but we can move towards Pakistan and China, build up our military for round 2 with Israel and US in a couple of years.

Others might disagree but I would suggest amending the constitution and giving China naval and army bases temporarily while rebuilding and modernizing our military.

 

[Cicero]

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[mangekyo]

The nuke program is just a poor excuse. It’s evident that Iran doesn’t need nukes to destroy Israel. A decent airforce for defence combined with the missiles as offense would have been enough to completely annihilate Israel. They want Iran to have a Zionist foreign policy. That is what this is all about.

 

[Cicero]

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[AZ_HighCountry]

You are most welcome. And yes for people like me that little nugget was a goldmine.
I love the internet.

Who needs an intelligence network when you have forums like this?

My "home forum" is no different.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Folks. What's going on?

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Bringing back stranded Iranians ?

 

[Panzerkiel]

 

[mulj]

Mark my words. If Iran falls Muslims will enter such a dark age that the Mongol invasion will look like nothing in comparison. And I’m not saying this because I believe Iran is some divine country, not at all. It has is flaws, but it is the only country that’s standing up to the west and zionists dominating Islam. Do you think Saudi’s are going to stop the west? Turkish NATO? Pakistan doesn’t have the economy. Why can’t Muslims understand this? Why do you always have to focus on sectarian differences? Do you want to live as slaves to the Jews? This isn’t the middle age anymore, are you going to pick up a sword, ride a horse and defeat the west once they turn you all into slaves?

We understand and sane people screamed from bottom of their lungs about necessity of closer relations between triangle of Turkiye, Iran and Pakistan but apparently in vain of internet space and puzzled how others apparently smarter people in politics do not see that and work at any cost in that direction.

 

[r3alist]

Others might disagree but I would suggest amending the constitution and giving China naval and army bases temporarily while rebuilding and modernizing our military.

You don't need to go that far, and you should understand nor would they want to accept this type of visibility

However, I'm sure there is ample and broad mutual interest

Just imagine for example technology and science collaboration
Ideologically, Iran could reconsider with respect to it neighbors