Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

in that case, local Afghans were anti ANA and NATO. You should remember ANA was mostly non-pashtun.
Alla Afghan needed some little help which Pak provided.

It was 50% Pashtun I mean the trash of pashtuns were in the gov´t.. Karzai and Ghani were both Pashtuns but they had a large cabinet of non-pashtuns and warlords but the most were Panjshiri elements such as Ahmed Masood Shah junior, Amrullah Salah, Abdullahi Abdullahi etc etc
 
It's happened before...the US has the ability to facilitate a regime change in Iran if it wanted to, sure at a great cost. But this user thinks that once that is done Pakistan can just destabilise and overthrow that government. Some of you guys are smoking elite afghani heroin with bs like this.
Both of you are wrong. First of all, Pakistan doesn’t have even 1% of the influence over Iranians that it had over afghans. Second of all, tell Zionist Reza good luck fighting ultra religious and armed IRGC and Basijis + probably thousands of Shiites from Iraq, then you have hostile Kurds, Baluchi’s, Ahvazis and the list goes on forever
 
Plus, there is zero guarantee that US GBU-57s will have the expected impact anyway. Imagine what a fail it would be if GBU-57s fail to penetrate Fordow, Us is remembered for some of the largest impacts done on Iran and then Iran lets all hell break loose on the US interests. It will be a nightmare outcome for Trump. Its just too risky.

Half of the Us administration hates Nethanyahoo and wants him to fk-off. Why would they help him win this war and then stick around for 30 more years. Nethanyahoo failing is as good an outcome for the US as taking out Iran's program. From the looks of it Israel is hitting the mountain for 5 days with zero effect, while Israelis will be just take out Nethanyaoo and stop the war if he does not succeed. So Us must be looking at the better odds, as well. US wants survival of Israel, not of Nethanyahoo (for him this is the last chance of politicl survival), if Iran stops the attacks and Neethantahoo leaves then it will be a win-win for both Iran and the US.


Yes. That is how I interrupted it in what is published in the NY Times. VP Vance and the MAGA base are opposed to Netanyahu, the Neocons, and the Deep State who want America to wage wars on Israel's behalf. Trump was raising those questions to resist the war plans that the war hawks were presenting to him.

But here is the challenge: The Neocons and Israeli firsters have so much power and Trump doesn't want directly to confront them. This is where he wants the upcoming meeting between VP Vance, Witkoff and Iranian FM Abbas Araghchi to bear fruits.

Putin's call with Trump and #IRGC reducing the missile assaults on Israel could be part of this plan. It looks like the Iranian energy is focused on defeating the terrorist menace inside Iran.

Hopefully, when an agreement is reached, ceasefire in Gaza will also be included.

That being said, Netanyahu and the Israeli right have a big support base in this Trump administration, so they could spoil the whole thing.
 
Both of you are wrong. First of all, Pakistan doesn’t have even 1% of the influence over Iranians that it had over afghans. Second of all, tell Zionist Reza good luck fighting ultra religions and armed IRGC and Basijis + probably thousands of Shiites from Iraq, then you have hostile Kurds, Baluchi’s, Ahvazis and the list goes on forever
While I accept that Gohlavi wouldn't take over the entirety of Iran, I can see him installed within a smaller buffer "West Iran" state.
 
If Iran comes out of this shit show and survive, I will hope that Iran go crazy on buying and the locals who aided Israel, least I expect Iran to order J-10's 2 full sqs with either SD-10's or Pl-15E's, order HQ-9B's from China within few months as China is only country that provide fighter jets, SAM in short time. Russians did nothing for Iran and provided nothing including the Su35's, I mean they did lets say within few months/Weeks than sure, anything to harass the IDF fighters over Tehran, but I think Iran will be building more new Missile bases much deeper this time including ones to host enriched Uranium.
I think Iran can take a step back and assure that they will no pursue Nuclear weapons but build a damn good conventional military, knowledge is there in Iran infrastructure can be build again, And Honestly I would say If Iran get the nukes at some point it will force KSA to get their own weapons which will than have 3 major Muslim countries with nukes, it balances the power in the region, KSA is like Iran full of empty land and can build some deep underground bases to accommodate, If countries have nukes as Deterrence than it lower the risk of major wars as the world find some sort of peaceful way to resolve issues, and Pakistan/India is prime example of it, both countries have nukes and despite launching Missiles/Air strikes at each other both hesitate to go into full scale war which escalate to a point of no return, and America came in to offer a cease-fire which both India/Pakistan accept, and its holding so far pretty good.
 
If Tehran has been hostile is because we don't tolerate terrorists operating freely within your borders. Whether a criminal or not, there is no evidence that Pakistan helped Iran to become nuclear, which would actually threaten Pakistan in some ways. What you don't realise is nuclear states don't want other states to have nukes, only them. So this idea that a nuclear state will make another state go nuclear is a fairy tale. But what is believable is if AQ had a solo vision for Muslim nations to be nuclear so he acted alone to do this and make some bread in the process.
And how - if our greatest and most important scientific asset ever wanted to provide schematics to Iran - could the Pakistani state possibly not have been watching him do it every step of the way? It's naiive to suggest otherwise.

Anyway, we shall have to agree to disagree or the thread will become derailed.
 
American fighters were evacuated from the Qatari Al Adid base

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Fake news! It was a smuggling criminal network called AQ Khan. Not the Pakistani state.
Why are you pissed at AQ Khan??? What's your beef with him? you certainly are not Pakistani after reading your language for our national hero. As you later claimed in a further post that he "acted alone", then any thing you should be praising him, right?
You for some reason are pissed at him!!!! Now why is that?
Are you really an Iranian? or another cow worshipper or just a worshiper of cow worshippers?
 
and most importantly, dig out the forward missile sites in the West, ASAP, Israelis are suggesting there are 6,000 to 10,000 additional Missiles in there with 500+ launchers. Iran can seriously rain Hell on Israel if those are all reached, secured and defended with better air defenses in the coming days.
I hope Iran uses more Cluster Munitions, Thermobarics and EMP warheads during the climactic "Final Battle" barrage to dissuade Israelis from continuing the exchange any farther before it gets nuclear.
 
Bibi said his ass is on fire and asked trump if he could please help him. Trump who was having lunch with munira said that munira is cool and Pakistan have nukes. Pakistan is friends with Israel but more friends with Iran. Trump then said he will think about attacking Iran, Iran said come at me bro. Trump then said he doesn’t want to come, but he might. This was while Tel Aviv was getting hammered according to Palestinians, but Israel claims 100% intercept rate
Did Trump or Munir tell you what they discussed?
 
Brazil is one of the countries most friendly to China. Over the years. I haven't encounter a bad or unfriendly Brazilian comment about China or Chinese over the internet or many forums even at the time of conservative president Bolsonaro who is pro-US and not that friendly to China. Now, the Brazilian socialist gov is very pro-China. I hope Brazil can cooperate more with China on security and military matters, like buy J-10CE from China. Thailand, Cambodia and Laos are pro-China and are like traditional Chinese allies. Vietnam is different, they have complicated mixed feelings about China. Why would Madagascans hate Chinese, silly.

The reason Brazil is friendly is because China is their biggest buyer of grains and Brazil is basically land of grains and sugar but they are not an ally and China will never sell J10 to them as they would sell it to the west.. It is seller-buyer relationship nothing more
 

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