Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025

Read this carefully, it's from an Israeli newspaper, their wishes for what they want to turn Iran into and their choices of weapon.

Economic sanctions, isolation, intelligence operations, and balkanisation ("parition") using groups like Balochs. Etc.

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alphapak said:
Lesson 1: weed out the traitors or face the same fate as the Iranian leadership.
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And to achieve that:

1. Counter intelligence operations (active)
2. Economic and social growth (passive) to limit the number of local collaborators that can potentially be recruited

P.S: Catching up on the thread and looks like others have mentioned similar points
 
Waz said:
Just no.
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Agree. Make India fly them out in the most expensive way possible.... Let them rack up lots of flight hours on those C17s that cost a fortune to fly on their citizens... Dont think Pakistan should be doing any favours given that Operation Sindoor is still "active".
 
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Lesson from Iran - Israel War

MIRV is the better Approach.
You need to throw everything in numbers.
Imagine Iran had fired 100 MIRV missiles each with 1 heavy warhead+7 dummy RVs (just RVs with out any warhead)
It put around 800 RVs in Atmosphere
Now go jews and find out the RVs with Warheads or fire 800 Interceptors in one night.
Either way you lose it.
 
Rationalist said:
Read this carefully, it's from an Israeli newspaper, their wishes for what they want to turn Iran into and their choices of weapon.

Economic sanctions, isolation, intelligence operations, and balkanisation ("parition") using groups like Balochs. Etc.

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Following on from what I wrote last night on the subject of Pakistan, Channel 14 reporter Dror Balzada comes along and brings reports that confirm the concern.Also, there are very few people in Israel who know and are as knowledgeable about Iran as Dror. I highly recommend following him and listening to his reports on the channel. A true professional!

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In the shadow of the alarms, we need to pay attention to an event that could develop into something significant for us. The Iranian regime is losing its grip, and in recent minutes has received an embrace and support from Pakistan. Mohammad Asif, the Pakistani Defense Minister, made a statement on the subject. We need to remember: Pakistan is a military power next to which Iran looks like a summer camp. Also, Pakistan has a nuclear arsenal.

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There are plenty of eyes in occupied Palestine eyeing up Pakistan. Algeria is not safe either!!

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Pakistan definitely needs to study and replicate the capabilities of the Iranian hypersonic missiles. Very impressive.

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Can't stress this enough:

-REDUCE THE SPIES/PERSONNEL IN THE US EMBASSY/CONSULATES IN PAKISTAN ASAP.
-MONITOR THEIR MOVEMENTS, THEY ARE SPIES/CIA/MOSSAD AGENTS.

We don't really need so many of them in our small country.......what are they really doing in that 'fortress' anyway?? I can't believe they;re all there for the Visas or Consular Services. Kick them out !!

And sell those old F16's.......that will ensure those americans no longer linger around our air bases. Replace all of them with J10C or J20 squadrons. No reliance on american technology needed, get it all from China.

Also reduce the British/UK Embassy personnel. They're also spies and double agents of MI6 and others.
 
Hi,

Most important lesson for pakistan---don't let PAF generals decide how many offensive targets should be taken out---.

Take that decision out the hands of the Paf command---.

For not letting the pilots shoot all of the enemy aircraft---the Paf air marshall responsible for even proposing the idea--- should be court marshalled---and executed for treason against the state---.

this man alone let the enemy escape with all its assets safe---and the Paf gave away its secrets one more time---.
 
Lesson number 332

Take care of Afghan problem before they take care of you. Iran learned the hard way.

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MastanKhan said:
Hi,

Most important lesson for pakistan---don't let PAF generals decide how many offensive targets should be taken out---.

Take that decision out the hands of the Paf command---.

For not letting the pilots shoot all of the enemy aircraft---the Paf air marshall responsible for even proposing the idea--- should be court marshalled---and executed for treason against the state---.

this man alone let the enemy escape with all its assets safe---and the Paf gave away its secrets one more time---.
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it was the chief and he did the correct thing. otherwise right now we would be in war
 
MastanKhan said:
Hi,

Most important lesson for pakistan---don't let PAF generals decide how many offensive targets should be taken out---.

Take that decision out the hands of the Paf command---.

For not letting the pilots shoot all of the enemy aircraft---the Paf air marshall responsible for even proposing the idea--- should be court marshalled---and executed for treason against the state---.

this man alone let the enemy escape with all its assets safe---and the Paf gave away its secrets one more time---.
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It was not the PAF, it was the Generals who didn't sanction further hits ( and rightly so )
even when IAF was down for 36 plus hours.
 
PK781 said:
Can't stress this enough:

-REDUCE THE SPIES/PERSONNEL IN THE US EMBASSY/CONSULATES IN PAKISTAN ASAP.
-MONITOR THEIR MOVEMENTS, THEY ARE SPIES/CIA/MOSSAD AGENTS.

We don't really need so many of them in our small country.......what are they really doing in that 'fortress' anyway?? I can't believe they;re all there for the Visas or Consular Services. Kick them out !!

And sell those old F16's.......that will ensure those americans no longer linger around our air bases. Replace all of them with J10C or J20 squadrons. No reliance on american technology needed, get it all from China.

Also reduce the British/UK Embassy personnel. They're also spies and double agents of MI6 and others.
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You see what approach is not going to yield anything.
It is like you have a sinking boat, and instead of addressing the hole in the boat
you increase the number of people, equip them with expensive imported buckets
and tell them to make sure boat remains afloat.

If really our establishment is serious, there are many other very basic yet vital things
they can do to secure the country.

and I can guarantee should this better route be taken, they will uncover more stuff then they ever dreamed of.

O&O
 
Sinnerman108 said:
You see what approach is not going to yield anything.
It is like you have a sinking boat, and instead of addressing the hole in the boat
you increase the number of people, equip them with expensive imported buckets
and tell them to make sure boat remains afloat.

If really our establishment is serious, there are many other very basic yet vital things
they can do to secure the country.

and I can guarantee should this better route be taken, they will uncover more stuff then they ever dreamed of.

O&O
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It will be much harder to do this type of stuff here

nearly everyone universally in Pakistan can agree they hate israel
 
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