Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025

[Samurai]

Also one thing that I missed out previously and want to share on this thread is the importance of Artificial Intelligence in this era and the coming one. Pakistan needs to invest more on AI and obviously AI should be part of our university education so that we have future generations of software developers who are really good at AI. Also semi-conductors are important, idk much about this as I am not well informed on the topic, but Semi-Conductors and chips are used in everything especially defence related like for e.g. in missiles, drones etc. So Pakistan needs to secure a supply chain of it and start indigenizing defence products.... we can't manufacture a jet engine or a helicopter engine because we lack expertise and resources, so we have to invest on that part too.

 

[Toxic]

Also one thing that I missed out previously and want to share on this thread is the importance of Artificial Intelligence in this era and the coming one. Pakistan needs to invest more on AI and obviously AI should be part of our university education so that we have future generations of software developers who are really good at AI. Also semi-conductors are important, idk much about this as I am not well informed on the topic, but Semi-Conductors and chips are used in everything especially defence related like for e.g. in missiles, drones etc. So Pakistan needs to secure a supply chain of it and start indigenizing defence products.... we can't manufacture a jet engine or a helicopter engine because we lack expertise and resources, so we have to invest on that part too.

To have all that we need a serious push on promoting stem, also literacy drives because at a 60% literacy rate currently it leaves over a 100 million people without any meaning contribution besides manual labor, its a terrible waste.

 

[baqai]

exhaust the bully seems to be a good learning lesson here

 

[harpy1]

There main take away for Pakistan should be the front foot approach of striking deep into the enemy military infrastructure
Israel took out Iranian air defense first special forces on ground cyber warfare and long range air strikes
They took out the leadership too to bring chaos in chain of command
This established freedom of the skies for 200 Israeli fighters 70% of their fleet F35 F15/16 to strike cruise missles at will

The air campaign was about striking at heart of the enemy infrastructure

That is called air dominance

 

[harpy1]

Just in case you think you could do that to India
Answer not a chance in hell
Navic satalites
IACC network survlliance
Multi layered air defense
Massive strategic depth
Huge number of military sites

Only USA or china has the capability potentially to take out a opponent the size of Indian military
Like Israeli strike on Iran

But you got to say the Israelis are the best of the best as always

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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[frontline360news]

Pakistan must accelerate the development of deeply buried underground missile storage facilities to ensure second strike capability and survivability. Unlike countries like China, Russia, or even India, Pakistan has not yet developed an indigenous hypersonic missile. Its missile R&D program, rooted in the Hatf series, has focused more on ballistic and cruise missile capabilities. Pakistan must prioritize advanced long range missiles capable of striking high value strategic targets deep inside India, not only military installations but also critical economic and industrial centers in major cities.

To dominate the aerial battlefield, Pakistan should invest in next-generation stealth drones and acquire advanced fighter jets like the J-35A to establish air superiority over India. This would enable precision strikes, reconnaissance, and denial of enemy air operations, ensuring a decisive edge in any future conflict.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan must accelerate the development of deeply buried underground missile storage facilities to ensure second strike capability and survivability. Unlike countries like China, Russia, or even India, Pakistan has not yet developed an indigenous hypersonic missile. Its missile R&D program, rooted in the Hatf series, has focused more on ballistic and cruise missile capabilities. Pakistan must prioritize advanced long range missiles capable of striking high value strategic targets deep inside India, not only military installations but also critical economic and industrial centers in major cities.

To dominate the aerial battlefield, Pakistan should invest in next-generation stealth drones and acquire advanced fighter jets like the J-35A to establish air superiority over India. This would enable precision strikes, reconnaissance, and denial of enemy air operations, ensuring a decisive edge in any future conflict.

Of course. We WANT all of those and MORE. After all, it is not like we have any needs for schools and hospitals, right? It is just a matter of national priorities.

Sekortee over Shoshal Devlupmint 100%.

 

[Assault Rifle]

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[frontline360news]

Of course. We WANT all of those and MORE. After all, it is not like we have any needs for schools and hospitals, right? It is just a matter of national priorities.

Sekortee over Shoshal Devlupmint 100%.

Pakistan is in need of accountability, spending at least 15% of the total budget on Education, and a big chunk on development.

From a Western perspective, the situation presents a striking contradiction. While China, Pakistan’s closest strategic ally, has built a reputation for its ruthless crackdown on corruption, including harsh penalties and even executions, Pakistan’s own political and military establishment has too often gone in the opposite direction. Instead of targeting Corrupt Mafia, they’ve shielded corrupt networks and marginalized reformers who push for accountability.

For Western observers and policy thinkers, this raises serious concerns about governance, transparency, and fiscal sustainability in Pakistan. The country continues to struggle with bloated bureaucracy, entrenched patronage systems, and a budget structure that’s increasingly fragile. One glaring issue is the 18th Amendment which grants semi-autonomy to provinces—yet these provinces rarely generate their own revenue streams and remain heavily reliant on federal funds. From a fiscal responsibility standpoint, this is viewed as unsustainable and inefficient.

From a Western standpoint, the contradiction is hard to ignore, Pakistan touts its strategic closeness with China, yet shows little interest in emulating Beijing’s unforgiving stance on corruption. If Islamabad is serious about building lasting stability and sound governance, the focus should shift to deep reforms: overhauling public institutions, reining in entrenched elites, and rethinking the financial relationship between the center and the provinces. This isn’t about hoarding power in the capital—it’s about expecting provinces to pull their weight through innovation, accountability, and real fiscal contribution.

In short, Western analysts might argue: stop subsidizing dysfunction, and start incentivizing reform. Otherwise, Pakistan risks not only economic stagnation but also eroding the credibility it seeks on the global stage.

 

[frontline360news]

Of course. We WANT all of those and MORE. After all, it is not like we have any needs for schools and hospitals, right? It is just a matter of national priorities.

Sekortee over Shoshal Devlupmint 100%.

Pakistan urgently needs accountability, increased investment in education (at least 15% of the budget), and robust development spending to address its deep-rooted governance issues. From a Western lens, there’s a glaring contradiction: while China, Pakistan’s closest ally, enforces harsh anti-corruption measures, Pakistan’s leadership often protects corrupt networks and sidelines reformers.

This dynamic worries Western policymakers, who see Pakistan’s bloated bureaucracy, fragile fiscal structure, and overly dependent provinces—enabled by the 18th Amendment—as unsustainable. Despite its strategic ties to China, Pakistan has not mirrored Beijing’s zero-tolerance approach to graft.

Western analysts argue that Pakistan must undertake serious institutional reforms, demand greater provincial responsibility in revenue generation, and stop rewarding dysfunction. Without change, Pakistan risks deeper economic stagnation and diminished global credibility.

 

[Distant_Observer]

The biggest eye opener is Iran's internal security. It's an absolute shit show. Spies, informants, rebels right up to government level. It's a free for all.

No wonder KPK and Balochistan are always on fire. BLA must completely be free to roam in Iran.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

The biggest eye opener is Iran's internal security. It's an absolute shit show. Spies, informants, rebels right up to government level. It's a free for all.

No wonder KPK and Balochistan are always on fire. BLA must completely be free to roam in Iran.

If the Iranians after this dont take raw agent threat seriously and keep harboring them after this then we should bomb iran ourselves.


Im sorry but its the truth

 

[Path-Finder]

Hi,

They won't be. Because pakistan are habitually treasonous in nature---. They cannot be trusted to follow thru completely with their promise---.

If you ever meet indian Muslims they will bring up what happened in 1971 east Pakistan!! that event for them has been a eye opener.

 

[Path-Finder]

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That was also discovered in one of the drone trucks - that is the end cap from a Javelin ATGM
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Mossad have been perfecting tactics tried and tested in Ukraine. Remember these tricks were originally mastered by the Israelis in the first place - Ukrainians adopted them, and based on how effective the micro drones have been in Iran, they (mossad) have perfect this - to the point where collaborators (likely laypersons) based on people who have been arrested by the Iranians can operate them with minimal supervision.

This will be used against Pakistan. Guaranteed. since india has spike and probably assembles them too.

Why cant we get the reverse engineered spike from Iran and form similar tactics too?