Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Pradotlc
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RealNapster
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He can easily resolve this issue but announcing impartiality in this conflict and by asking NATO and European members to stay away and let Iran-Israel fight out their war.
This will lead to destruction of Israel, as we all know, and this my friend is a major reason for giving trump the peace prize as he was the reason of Israel destruction .
They have just realised that Pak might be economically weak, but as a nation comes together in times of crises regardless of political affiliations…
Also they realised in terms of defence, Pak is there with them and in some areas more ahead than even some western countries in certain war fighting and defence tactics, doctrine, technology application and systems integration… also how it gave a bloody nose to a 7x greater country…
Hence the newfound respect…
Assyrian209
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I had an Indian hindu friend of mine from Australia tell me the amount of fake news indoctrination happening in India regarding the 1000 years rule is ridiculous he said even for him as hindu.
They claim fake genocides in these 1000 years and near exctinction levels which is absolutely fake. There numbers has grown most under Islamic rule and they were untouched. They can´t just explode to over 1 billion hindu out of nowhere unless they were untouched from since the invasion which is the clear fact here.
They have started revisionism regarding that era which has left people indoctrinated.
There is not one evidence of Muslims leaving behind a genocide anywhere they ruled because it was not there practice to do such thing.
European farmers became rich for the first time under Islamic rule as they were protect against thieves which lead to their flourishing and no population decline anywhere ruled by muslims in the middle age is reported including India
Foxhound
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Iran has done extremely well so far, despite the initial shock from the unexpected attack from Israel and the internal sabotage from spies/Mossad/ Collaborators with foreign powers. If it can continue to keep hitting key targets in Israel - then their stomach for the fight to continue will suffer.
Hence, Israel is trying their best to get the USA/Western powers to intervene and do the 'dirty work' for them.
This is where Pakistan, China, Russia, other countries that are unhappy with the Israeli attack (a Genocidal nation in which it's leader is wanted for war crimes) to do a lot behind the scenes to encourage negotiation and stop the war and conflict expanding.
This will then give Iran the chance to address areas of weakness, such as improving its air power and preventing any nation of having air dominance.
Hence, Israel is trying their best to get the USA/Western powers to intervene and do the 'dirty work' for them.
This is where Pakistan, China, Russia, other countries that are unhappy with the Israeli attack (a Genocidal nation in which it's leader is wanted for war crimes) to do a lot behind the scenes to encourage negotiation and stop the war and conflict expanding.
This will then give Iran the chance to address areas of weakness, such as improving its air power and preventing any nation of having air dominance.
Aggregate
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Ewww that's not even an achievement tho. The Goldsmith Family are the worst of the Zionist lot. The whole area around Ormeley Lodge has a Secretive Evil Zionist vibe to it, even if you drive by.
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Assyrian209
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They will have to exit the sanctions in order to purchase fighter jets it will take time before the sanctions are removed from them.
But that is true they will have to rebuild their airforce
Shakehands
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Time to break layers?
mangekyo
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100% beyond any doubt
mangekyo
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No offense guys, but your gen z is really cringe. Trying to take credit from us and give to Pakistan any way they can think of
kastor ville
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Also, he's really not that smart....garden variety bully.
Shakehands
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Why ‘Judeo-Christian values’ are a dog-whistle myth peddled by the far right
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President Trump recently stated his support for ‘Judeo-Christian values’ … but what does that phrase really mean? Pixabay, CC BY-SA
The phrase “Judeo-Christian” has been around since the 1930s but US President Donald Trump recently resurrected it in a deeply problematic speech on October 13, 2017 in which he said: “We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values … We’re saying ‘Merry Christmas’ again.”
It might seem neighbourly, even pluralistic, to include Judaism in a declaration of purported Western values. But in reality this isn’t how the term has functioned, either historically or more recently. Instead, the phrase is used to exclude rather than include. Despite implying that Jews are part of this resurrection of Judeo-Christian values, Trump in no way intends a campaign to Make Hanukkah Great Again. His “Judeo-Christian values” are about protecting Christmas, and about protecting Christians – at the exclusion of others.
Christian-majority nations such as the UK and US often lay claim to laws and ethics based on “Judeo-Christian values”. But it is important to remember that Jews have been systematically excluded from and terrorised by states that claim this Judeo-Christian foundation.
From the 1290 expulsion of Jews from England to Jewish refugees being turned away by Canada, the US and the UK during World War II, Jews have been excluded more often than welcomed.
For centuries, Jews have been made to feel unwelcome in the Christian world and it seems that it is only now that a new demographic of (often Muslim) immigrants fleeing war and economic hardship have reached the West that Jews are being included – and even then only on someone else’s terms.
A right wing slogan
“Judeo-Christian” is now most often used to draw a line between imagined Christian values and a perceived (but false) threat of Muslim immigration. It’s in this context, that right wing figures such as Nigel Farage use the phrase. Talking about radical Muslim clerics such as Anjem Choudary, he said for example:We believe in experts. We believe knowledge must inform decisions
About usBut in this statement, Farage connects his fears of radical Islam with the idea of “Judeo-Christian values”. It appears that it isn’t so much about including Jews as it is about excluding Muslims. And since Farage has also come under attack for anti-Semitic comments, including being called on to apologise after recent comments about the threat of “the Jewish lobby” to American politics, it seems hard to view the “Judeo-” in his “Judeo-Christian” as actually valuing Jewish people or Judaism as a religion.
Farage’s statement even prompted the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism to demand an apology.
Time and again, when Farage and Trump use the term, what they really imply is an “us-versus-them” division between the West and Islam. This is not about the inclusion of Jews in the values of these nations, then, but about the xenophobic exclusion of an “other”.
Invoked in anti-immigration rhetoric with the goal of excluding Muslims, this phrase is actually used to scaffold a false narrative about Christians being persecuted, threatened or besieged, which gives motivation for the protection of “Judeo-Christian values”. In fact, Christians are not persecuted in the countries where Farage and Trump make their homes.
Supersessionism
A quick search on Twitter for the phrase “Judeo-Christian” illustrates that white supremacists have embraced the term – and that Jews reject it.It’s not surprising that many Jews are not falling for this dog-whistle phrase, especially since the myth of a Judeo-Christian society rests on the false – and dangerous – idea that Judaism and Christianity hold the same ideas and values.
There are many fundamental differences between these two religions – and that’s OK. To respect and value Judaism means to do so on its own terms, and not only if it conforms to Christian ideas about what religion should be. Ignoring these differences (and to pretend that Jews and Christians believe the same things) risks subsuming Judaism into Christianity. It risks viewing Judaism as an archaic precursor to Christianity rather than a continuing unique and vibrant tradition. There is nothing “Judeo” about saying Merry Christmas.
Indeed, the phrase “Judeo-Christian” erases Judaism by implying that Christian values are Jewish values. Erasing Judaism by subsuming it into Christianity is called supersessionism, a tactic of Christian polemicists for centuries, and one that is currently in use by the Christian religious right.
It seems, then, that the idea of Judeo-Christian values excludes both Jews and Muslims. The phrase tacitly excludes Jews by subsuming Judaism into Christianity, and it explicitly excludes Muslims in its use in anti-immigration rhetoric. In reality, “Judeo-Christian values” actually point to a particular type of right-wing Christian values. Continuing to use this phrase only contributes to exclusionary and divisive political rhetoric. When we hear it, we should call it out for what it is.
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The phrase “Judeo-Christian” has been around since the 1930s but US President Donald Trump recently resurrected it in a deeply problematic speech on October 13, 2017 in which he said: “We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values … We’re saying ‘Merry Christmas’ again.”
It might seem neighbourly, even pluralistic, to include Judaism in a declaration of purported Western values. But in reality this isn’t how the term has functioned, either historically or more recently. Instead, the phrase is used to exclude rather than include. Despite implying that Jews are part of this resurrection of Judeo-Christian values, Trump in no way intends a campaign to Make Hanukkah Great Again. His “Judeo-Christian values” are about protecting Christmas, and about protecting Christians – at the exclusion of others.
Christian-majority nations such as the UK and US often lay claim to laws and ethics based on “Judeo-Christian values”. But it is important to remember that Jews have been systematically excluded from and terrorised by states that claim this Judeo-Christian foundation.
From the 1290 expulsion of Jews from England to Jewish refugees being turned away by Canada, the US and the UK during World War II, Jews have been excluded more often than welcomed.
For centuries, Jews have been made to feel unwelcome in the Christian world and it seems that it is only now that a new demographic of (often Muslim) immigrants fleeing war and economic hardship have reached the West that Jews are being included – and even then only on someone else’s terms.
A right wing slogan
“Judeo-Christian” is now most often used to draw a line between imagined Christian values and a perceived (but false) threat of Muslim immigration. It’s in this context, that right wing figures such as Nigel Farage use the phrase. Talking about radical Muslim clerics such as Anjem Choudary, he said for example:We believe in experts. We believe knowledge must inform decisions
About usBut in this statement, Farage connects his fears of radical Islam with the idea of “Judeo-Christian values”. It appears that it isn’t so much about including Jews as it is about excluding Muslims. And since Farage has also come under attack for anti-Semitic comments, including being called on to apologise after recent comments about the threat of “the Jewish lobby” to American politics, it seems hard to view the “Judeo-” in his “Judeo-Christian” as actually valuing Jewish people or Judaism as a religion.
Farage’s statement even prompted the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism to demand an apology.
Time and again, when Farage and Trump use the term, what they really imply is an “us-versus-them” division between the West and Islam. This is not about the inclusion of Jews in the values of these nations, then, but about the xenophobic exclusion of an “other”.
Invoked in anti-immigration rhetoric with the goal of excluding Muslims, this phrase is actually used to scaffold a false narrative about Christians being persecuted, threatened or besieged, which gives motivation for the protection of “Judeo-Christian values”. In fact, Christians are not persecuted in the countries where Farage and Trump make their homes.
Supersessionism
A quick search on Twitter for the phrase “Judeo-Christian” illustrates that white supremacists have embraced the term – and that Jews reject it.It’s not surprising that many Jews are not falling for this dog-whistle phrase, especially since the myth of a Judeo-Christian society rests on the false – and dangerous – idea that Judaism and Christianity hold the same ideas and values.
There are many fundamental differences between these two religions – and that’s OK. To respect and value Judaism means to do so on its own terms, and not only if it conforms to Christian ideas about what religion should be. Ignoring these differences (and to pretend that Jews and Christians believe the same things) risks subsuming Judaism into Christianity. It risks viewing Judaism as an archaic precursor to Christianity rather than a continuing unique and vibrant tradition. There is nothing “Judeo” about saying Merry Christmas.
Indeed, the phrase “Judeo-Christian” erases Judaism by implying that Christian values are Jewish values. Erasing Judaism by subsuming it into Christianity is called supersessionism, a tactic of Christian polemicists for centuries, and one that is currently in use by the Christian religious right.
It seems, then, that the idea of Judeo-Christian values excludes both Jews and Muslims. The phrase tacitly excludes Jews by subsuming Judaism into Christianity, and it explicitly excludes Muslims in its use in anti-immigration rhetoric. In reality, “Judeo-Christian values” actually point to a particular type of right-wing Christian values. Continuing to use this phrase only contributes to exclusionary and divisive political rhetoric. When we hear it, we should call it out for what it is.
Why ‘Judeo-Christian values’ are a dog-whistle myth peddled by the far right
Its real purpose is to subsume Judaism and exclude Islam.
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Bengal71
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Na…. I don’t believe in lubricantion…
Give um straight
I don't believe in sodomy, use a bamboo instead. Do it front a distance and cover your nose with a handkerchief.
