Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Yommie]

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[Sarhang]

It goes against the strange Fatwa.

It's Haram to use nuclear weapons but iys okay to use ballistic missiles on civilian infrastructure.

Can some Pakistani cleric/establishment guy please lecture Khamenei on why having nuclear weapons against oppressors is actually in line with prophet Mohammads philosophy of warfare.

 

[tower9]

Please differentiate between Americans and the Zionists who have hijacked our government.

It will be a mistake to demonize average Americans who are mostly not in favor of Trump getting us into another war.

The mood in America today is far different than it was when the first Gulf War was announced.

I don’t know a single person who wants us involved here. There may be a few evangelicals out there who do but the vast majority, vast majority of Americans do not want any involvement and truth be told, Israel’s image is in the dumps. Especially among anybody under 40, opinions of Israel are at all time lows.

 

[Yommie]

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[RescueRanger]

Well I haven't seen any reports yet on Americans claiming Iran involvement in the operation. Do you have a link to it?

Hi,

Here you go:

Questions about degree of US coordination with Iran emerge after news conference​

We've just heard from our US correspondent James Matthews, who explained that the American strikes on Iran "came down to a deception plan".

He explained that B-2 bombers were seen flying towards Guam in the Pacific, which "raised many questions", but now we know it was a decoy as other bombers were sneaking their way towards Iran.

There was "much hype" from Pete Hegseth at the Pentagon news conference in the last hour, Matthews adds.

Hegseth was "keen to stress" the "limited scope" of the strike, but it was "textbook stuff" from the defence secretary and Trump ally, Matthews says.

An Operation Midnight Hammer posterReuters
There are reports circulating that the US contacted Iran through diplomatic channels ahead of the strikes to "assert its intentions".

Matthews explained that that would be reminiscent of a previous strike in 2020 when the US took out a senior Iranian military commander.

He said: "That certainly asks the question about the degree of coordination with the Iranians.

"It raises the prospect of guardrails implemented by the United States - an arrangement whereby the US could look tough, as tough as Pete Hegseth has characterised this as, but also give due warning to Iran, and allow it to manage its response in a way that is contained."

 

[OldTwilight]

Finally, total war begins ... IRGC stated the war will conclude within 2-6 incoming month ...

https://farsnews.ir/M_r7726/1750596947160021580/%D8%AA%DA%A9%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%81-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%DB%8C%D9%84-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%DB%B2-%D8%AA%D8%A7-%DB%B6-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%87-%D8%A2%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87-%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B4%D9%86-%D9%85%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%AF

 

[Tsubasa]

There are 90 million Iranians, each one has a different political view.

What is sure is that majority are disappointed and disgusted at the current regime for being so incompetent.

I have no understanding or sympathy for this kind of mindset.nyone who hopes for their own countrys collapse just to force change has already abandoned any sense of responsibility. Its a deeply unsettling willingness to let ones homeland fall into ruin, hoping that foreign powers will bomb it, break it down, and eventually install a new regime, as if it were someone elses battlefield not their own home.

 

[StormBreaker]

@RescueRanger So any significant updates in the past 8 hours? Especially from Irani leadership?

 

[Fasbre2]

According to President Rafsanjani, Pakistan provided them with 4,000 uranium centrifuges in the 1980s.

Pakistan sold nuke technology to Iran in 1980s says former president Rafsanjani

Rafsanjani has revealed that Pakistan gave his country 4,000 used centrifuges for enriching uranium.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

Old ones which we were going to scrap.. no need to bring this up… think before you post…

 

[vmro]

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For Iran, from now Yemen should be priority as strategic partner... They are compact, they are able to fight back in clashes with nato and zionists, geopolitical enormously important located, on essential corridors, bridge to Africa...

 

[Mav3rick]

Man i just hate the orange clown honestly, ever since he came the world has gone to CRAP like seriously and his clown Vice President.
He promised he would end all wars and allat but he is part of the same coin.

It would have been worse under any other US President.

I wonder what it would be like if Iran had not taken the deal in 2002/3, had actually proceeded with it's Nuclear Weapons Program and had 10-15 Nuclear Warheads by now. Would the US or Israel have dared to attack Iran then?

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger So any significant updates in the past 8 hours? Especially from Irani leadership?

Nothing relevant.

 

[Meengla]

Just starting my morning and trying to catchup news and this thread. Looks like Iran caused some major damage in Israel last night. Horribly Satisfying images of destruction!

86 wounded by Iranian missile attacks on Israel after US strikes 3 Iran nuclear sites

Broad devastation at impact sites in Tel Aviv and nearby Ness Ziona; failed Israeli interceptor crashes in Haifa; IDF destroys primed Iranian launchers, foiling larger attack

www.timesofisrael.com

86 wounded by Iranian missile attacks on Israel after US strikes 3 Iran nuclear sites​

Broad devastation at impact sites in Tel Aviv and nearby Ness Ziona; failed Israeli interceptor crashes in Haifa; IDF destroys primed Iranian launchers, foiling larger attack​

An Iranian ballistic missile barrage injured dozens of people in Israel on Sunday morning as nearly 30 projectiles targeted the country, causing widespread destruction to residential areas in Tel Aviv and the central town of Ness Ziona.

An Israeli air defense interceptor, meanwhile, malfunctioned and impacted the northern city of Haifa, causing damage and slightly wounding three people. No sirens had sounded in the city during the incident.

 

[El Sidd]

Conflict among Iranians in Berlin. Iranian monarchists are attacking Iranians who defend their country against Zionists. Which side are the Iranians taking here in the forum?

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Jaishankar says Iranians are with Iran.

 

[Sarhang]

I have no understanding or sympathy for this kind of mindset.nyone who hopes for their own countrys collapse just to force change has already abandoned any sense of responsibility. Its a deeply unsettling willingness to let ones homeland fall into ruin, hoping that foreign powers will bomb it, break it down, and eventually install a new regime, as if it were someone elses battlefield not their own home.

These same people have all grown up under IR rule. So blame IR incompetence for delivering such a 'traitorous' population.

Compare that to the 50-70's nationalistic population....