Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Tehran is literally under the most intense bombing this evening and people think that the Iranian government has leverage to say no to a ceasfire proposal. The country is weakened and under sanctions, coupled with being deeply unpopular, it's not soo easy to continue fighting under these circumstances.

we are not even 2 weeks in, Israel can't sustain huge sortie rates forever

IRI has never been more popular than now

unless the ceasefire news is true, then they will become very very unpopular even among their base

 

[Arash]

To me it's a trap to replenish Shitrael then reattack iran afterward.

 

[lightning f57]

If Trump was the leader of East Timor then the world would ignore him. But he is the leader of the USA, hence his lies are listened too .

Yahu only said like a day ago they think they know where the enriched Uranium is kept. This ceasefire is deception. Iran is in a binding so they must take the step they think will bear the best result. If Putin had given some guarantees with AD help they might press ahead. Otherwise we will be back here soon with Israel bombing Iran again.

 

[Brutal.]

Thats some good quality delulu

If you think zionists will stick to their words then your delulu is much better quality.

 

[Ali_Baba]

If Iran agrees to a ceasefire so soon, it will mean that the Iranian government has chosen to surrender. Iran would also become a global orphan. What value is there in a country that has resisted for even less time than Hamas?

Precisely. Iran has been proven to be a paper tiger, ie not a serious military power. They are not a regional power at all, expect them to get pushed around a lot now. Both their military and their “image” has been defanged totally now. No longer the big bad Iran!

 

[vmro]

And some iranians themselves will be hesitant

They would rather just blame khameni or the government and give a free ride to the traitors and the groups who actively attacked Iran

The government deserves scrutiny and blame, but at the moment Iran needs unity and strength

But it can't forgive or forget what the liberal, shah supporting types did, their needs to be a blood bath

Blaming or not, no one from his opponents even here on forum is not calling on anti-establishment demonstrations or attacks on institutions, different opinions are normal, different agendas are not... and they are united behind agenda for vendetta to Israeli beast with finally given chance to stun the bully with some striking combination, one remarkable operation, bigger and more Impacting than previous ones, prepared carefully and tasty collected toys, to be pinnacle of this conflict...than peace is acceptable, because Israel will have traumatic precedent, that will decrease their anti-iranian courage to benevolent level...

If Iran take wrong steps, just normal that will make real mistakes...or missed opportunities are goddamn expensive stuff... it's just looked that Iran outsmarted usa, then again in Bibi's pocket...just don't...

 

[Kyussis]

He has previously said that the strategic partnership doesn’t involve military aid

He said it is because Iran had not asked for it!

 

[MH.Yang]

I saw some displays of Iranian military 'might' and parades and what not some years ago. Out of politeness, I didn't say something about them. Suffice to say, didn't impress me. Hopefully, you guys will clean up. You came very close to losing it all. Buckle up, chin up, gin up, prep up... whatever it takes for the next round and you know it is coming because Israel is sure as hell a tool of imperialism and a tool to make a lot of people VERY rich in America. Notice how many trillions the Arabs just spent on buying weapons from America?? Why would someone stop such a lucrative Gravy Train??!!

Instead of buying weapons, trillions of dollars of Arab capital went to take over the huge U.S. national debt that matured in June. I predicted in April this year that the US would invade Iran, huge Arab capital would go into the US to take over the national debt, the war in Iran would push up oil prices to activate the US shale oil industry, and so on. All of my predictions hit.


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If he doesn't agree, then the option of putting outbound tax on those goods should be exercised. Then it will be a waiting game of how long Trump can take te pain and public backlash of extremely high prices. China on the other hand, I don't think will have to endure too much pain.

Trump's bottom line is a 20% tariff.

In fact, Trump knows very well that manufacturing is unlikely to return to the U.S. His series of actions have only two purposes:

1, to collect a large amount of tariffs to solve the government's financial problems, that is, in disguise, to raise taxes on U.S...

• MH.Yang

 

[Shags101]

we are not even 2 weeks in, Israel can't sustain huge sortie rates forever

IRI has never been more popular than now

unless the ceasefire news is true, then they will become very very unpopular even among their base

Still thinking it’s a ploy to try to put the Iranians at a sense of ease if the Israelis know where the uranium is they might go for their last real objective

 

[krash]

Maybe because;

• Around 2.7 million Pakistanis living/working in Saudi Arabia.
• Pakistani Parliament passing a resolution in April 2015 committing to the defence of Saudi Arabia.
• Pakistan's Former COAS General Raheel Sharif leading the 43 member Islamic Military Alliance since January 2017?
• A Trilateral Defence Collaboration pact set up between Pakistan-Saudi Arabia-Turkiye as of August 2023.

Will these qualify?

What's written in the Trliateral Defence Collaboration pact? What does the collaboration entail? In which sectors of defense? Show us.

Or was it agreed over a pinky swear during recess?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I'm not convinced. Amir was one of the most component people in Iran. He organized TP1 and TP2 operations. Ever since TP2, Israel wanted him dead. The Iranian President and foreign minister also dying mysteriously. And the nuclear scientists all being found and killed in one day.

There is a corrupt stakeholder group inside the regime that's selling these heroes and sacrificing them so they can remain in power at expense of Iran's national security and at expense of AoR.

The axis is fractured because of these decisions makers and stakeholders not solely because of Israel and the US aggression. There were many tools available that were not utilized properly that lead to certain strategic defeats and many tactical losses over the past two years.

Hamas must have had a much better impression of the state of the AoR than I think. That or they didn't care and wanted to put the equation of Jerusalem under attack = regional war.

Hamas had no time however with the wall being built around Gaza and Israel able to discover the plot with time. The conditions made sense for Hamas to make a move. There are opportunities you have to take or they'll be gone forever.

Israel is going to take a break, let's hope they leave Gaza too. AoR however is unlikely to recover due to trust issues and lack of coordination/communication. Everybody had a different agenda and other pressing issues they wanted to focus on. Hamas and Gaza will be sidelined for a long time. Hezbollah agreed to a bad deal. Iraqi factions won't play a role and hardly played a role.

Iran will be on its own trying to recover its nuclear program. Maybe get help from Russia and China.

Houthi's will continue surviving in their current form as they're like the Arab Taliban.

Hopefully this war will be studied well and they come out prepared for what the future holds. Israel is not gonna leave anyone alone.

Hajizadeh was just the mouthpiece, he said 75% of Iranian missiles during TP2 hit their targets while Pezeshkian was shown satellite images of clear misses

10 nuclear scientists are not 'all', lets not believe israeli exaggerations

the only allies for Iran were Houthis. Hezbollah sat on their ass and should be abandoned entirely

 

[KingQamaR]

he probably doesn't have good internal connection in his bunker so he doesn't know that IRGC already agreed to a ceasefire without telling him

Sounds like a regime change. Or he’s being sidelined

 

[Ali_Baba]

Those of you who are saying IRI accepted ceasefire because they didn’t have any more launchers.. MOSSAD knows how many launchers IRI has better than IRI. Do you think Israel would have asked for ceasefire if we were running low on launchers??

It was Iran who asked for a ceasefire, not Iran. Looks at the timing and terms of the ceasefire!!! It is obvious Iran begged for a ceasefire.

 

[hyperman]

I don't understand this ceasefire at all.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Lets look at track record

Palestine (Gaza/West Bank) , talk of peace , then attack , rinse repeat

• 1996 camp David accords ? End result , genocide in 2023-2025

Syria , talk of peace , resupply , rearm fighter jets , attack again
Iraq , start war war #1, talk of peace, wait then war #2

Israel's own track record is quite tainted

• Attacks Syria at will , stopped and then attacked again
• Attacks Labanon at will , stopped and then attacked again
• Attacked Iran without reason

Israel's aim is always damage the industrial base , wait and then do attack 3-4 times again after 4-5 month gap , to keep a country behind technologically

• They continue to attack Syria , anything that looks like industrial factory for over 10-15 year

Iran has dismantled large number of Israeli Production sites so Iran has a tactical edge

• The Cruise Missiles has potential to take care of more Israeli strategic assets