Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Incoming posts from psycho Israeli's

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[RescueRanger]

Unfortunately, the nature of this war makes it so that we'll never be able to get hard facts. We can only draw conclusions from publicly available information.

I am not ignorant to this fact having been posted to conflict zones in my lifetime outside of Pakistan. But there is a lot of misinformation in this thread alone, never mind other threads.

We will need to work on improving the quality of posts and the posting standards. It is something I intend admin will support.

 

[ToddE]

No, I mean I'm afraid that they have assassinated Khamenei.
It's just an idea. I hope I'm wrong, but the Americans are sneaky as ****.
Maybe they talked about ceasefire to divert our attention from their plan to target Khamenei? They said they knew where he was and could target him.

No enemy of Iran will ever want Khamenei gone.

I'm surprised that Iran is hitting Israel like this.

Pure Military POV,

IRGCAF is trying its best to show absolute defiance based deterrence at last minute that your entire 12 days achieved nothing because I am still here rubbling your cities and killing your civilians freely. Classic Escalate to De-escalate.

 

[Brutal.]

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[SteppeWolff]

Did Iran outsmart Trump? Tricking him to attack fordow, then get hit in Qatar, declare ceasefire. If he comes back to attack us, he’s going to be make a complete fool out of himself, especially after that grandiose post

Bro do you really care Trump gives a fck? The ceasefire is for the Israelis to regroup, strengthen their defences and attack your country again sometimes in future. Iran was giving them a severe pounding and Israeli IADS was running low on interceptors. IRI leadership gave their enemy breathing space.

 

[Be dazzled]

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[Falcon29]

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[RescueRanger]

Back in the day, people would just post from news-media, which had a minimum standard. Nowadays people post just about anything from social media, which is full of lies and misinfo, and thats the problem.

Anyways here is a gift article from WaPo about Israel running short on interceptors

https://wapo.st/3FTRlxg

In old PDF we had "articles" - not one liners or tweets - go to the Pakistan Army Archive page - that is the standard of posts we had. Researched and sourced. The standards have fallen with threads and posts laden with abuse and vitriol, makes it difficult to read and moderate.

 

[Serendipity]

Looks like blows will be exchanged for another 12 hours until actual ceasefire begins. The idea that Iran would stop and then let Israel bomb for another 12 hours was utter ridiculous.

No actually this makes sense if you look at past patterns. There have usually been 24 hour breaks between successive missile barrages. So zoin can just strike now and call a ceasefire before thr next wave and it will count as political optics of "bombed at our whim for 12 hours without retaliation". The pattern didn't change, only the label.

 

[ShapurII]

No enemy of Iran will ever want Khamenei gone.

He's going to die soon anyway. Dude is 86 and has had prostate cancer for more than 10 years. Something big is happening, I think.

 

[Forsvaret]

True or hoax?

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Could be true since Iranian officials temporarily lost contact with the Supreme Leader, according to the reports last night.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

More symbolic strike. Deterrence can fk all.

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[Fatman17]

I hope Iran destroying their F35s.

How

 

[Hayabusa]

Plausiblity is only good if you can deny them. Again, do you think they went through all these attacks and then just leave it at the "possibility" that the facilities were destroyed?

The core issue is, if they think the Fordo complex was not destroy, if there is a possibility in this realm, they will go at it again, they don't do all that to just let Iran get back to enriching Uranium on the download. Those day were gone, there weren't direct attack on site like this before, sure, they hit Iranian power plant and kill Iranian scientist, but never going all these extreme just to hit the 3 site they did. And that's not Israel doing it too. I

So the answer to you question is, do you think they will take Iranian word for it and stop attacking you? Or do you think Iran can somehow keep enriching uranium on the download from now on with Israel and US at their back? That is the actual question you need answer to.

Yes, they can deny that the facilities were destroyed. The satellite imagery released wasn’t detailed enough to reveal the extent of damage beneath the mountains. So in reality, denial remains a viable option.

While you may believe the U.S. or Israel wouldn’t go to such lengths to strike Iran again, I wouldn’t take that chance. That kind of assumption is like thinking lightning won’t strike the same place twice that’s not a mindset you can afford to have. You need to prepare for all possible outcomes, not cling to hopeful speculation.

As I’ve already mentioned, doubts about Iran’s intentions will persist. Regardless, Iran is likely to continue enriching uranium covertly and yes they should. At this point, it’s a race between Iran testing a nuclear device first, and Israel/U.S. striking again on their nuclear facilities.

 

[Ё-МАЁ]

Send 150 Su-75 with 95 Su-57 + 20 S-400 batteries with 10 S-500, 15 S-350 with 10 S-300VM

45 MiG 35+ 140 MiG-29M2 + upgrade our mig-29 to M2 standard, 35 Su-34, 15 Su-33, 150 Su-30SM

12 Tu-22M3 + 20 Tu-160 bomber + Tu-16 blueprints with local production

25 Pantsir S2

50 Mi-28 + 25 Ka-52

120 Mi-26T2V

30 Tor M2

P-800 and BrahMos blueprints

Also tell China to sell us their aircrafts

Good intentions! But why doesn't Iran want this? Despite all this, Iran can be congratulated on its victory.
Politics is a complex science. And by using it skillfully, you can achieve what you want.