Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize over:

1) Israel-Iran ceasefire (by Buddy Carter (R-Ga.)

2) Pakistan-India ceasefire (by Pakistani government)

So much winning. I can't contain myself.

 

[R2D2]

I get that, although the flaw in that thinking is that you are allowing the US to attack Iran risk-free via its proxy Israel. There is also a difference between destroying equipment and actually killing Americans. There were Israeli satellites collecting data as well and if Iran could have taken them out, Israel would be even more dependent on the US and forced to obey them.

If Iraqi militias attack US bases on Iranian advice, there is not much that the mighty US can do.

 

[Meengla]

how about an emoji of going at people instead of their point.

I mean if you don't like what I said, you are not compelled to reply to me, you have the absolute freedom to ignore me instead.

I had 'replied' to your points multiple times but, in your typical very VERBOSE style, you kept harping on drawing a parallel Iran and those poor little Arab countries and militias. And you totally, maybe intentionally, missing the point that Trump has indeed said a 'NO' to Netanyahu by not getting too involved; Netanyahu's entire gamble rested on the full American involvement but instead Trump is visibly angry with Israel.
It is not my own style to say things again and again, unlike you do. Communicating with you: Either I get a headache or I just skip your posts in this thread! <The Missing Hitting the Brickwall Emoji Here!>

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

they had planned for a regime change!
but they could not continue bombing, so reluctantly took ceasefire
in other words, USA asked them to do cease fire, otherwise no cease fire would have taken place!

Getting cut off can make a man change his mind. As a married man, I might be able to speak to that.

Those daddy flights mean a lot.

 

[vmro]

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I have been in Afghanistan few times, and yes, many are ready to do anything for 200$...that's wealthy sum for them...ircg employed a lot of them, I thing that only "real" proxy unit of IRGC is afagani-based...

Clear now how mossad so much penetrated IRGC and how proud Iranians are selling themselves for few hundreds % ...

It will not be easy cleaning-house process; but all traitors must be neutralized...

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Absolutely. Here is proof:

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Also, Israeli terror base underneath a hospital

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As usual, pindrop silence from the miscreant WEST!!!!!

I'm laughing, ok?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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Bravo to you.

 

[German Angst]

Military service is compulsory in Israel. Therefore no adult is innocent in Israel.

 

[Trailer23]

Iran announcing uranium enrichment right after the ceasefire is the ultimate **** you.

It’s not just about the nuclear program. It’s a message: We’ll do whatever we want and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Israelis are going to snap. After 12 days of chaos, fear, and destruction they’ll be asking: What was the point of this war? And the truth is that nothing was achieved.

Bibi looks like a complete moron. He dragged the country into hell, failed to stop anything, and made life more dangerous for Israelis, not less.

His days are numbered. His own people will tear him apart.

I’ll say checkmate for now. But it all comes down to what else we have in stock and if we’re able to recover faster than Israel can restock their ADs. But I think the political will to wage war in Israel is dead.

All that is great.

But you guys better learn from your mistakes (too).

If you can't compete with !sraeli F-35's strolling into your Airspace like its their backyard, it would be wise to get some quality AD Systems from China - if Russia can't help.

I'm sure the recent conflict between Pakistan/India has proven that China Equipment is just as good as the West. I'd be wise to invest in some of that & keep that RadioShack dinosaur-age crap away.

Believe me, even if their is a Ceasefire - those F-35s' will be flying over every night for reconnaissance & you guys have no way of knowing they are there.

 

[tsunset]

Iran did not achieve any kind of strategic victory. That's a delusional take.

They achieved a few tactical victories.

However, we know their air defenses were actually destroyed after TP2 as Israel claimed and their airspace is now open to Israeli attacks.

The only way this turns into a strategy victory is if they now actually weaponize their nuclear program and race to a nuclear weapon, and successfully test one.

This is not a victory, but Israel's calculations were miserable and didn't reached any of its objectives

Objectives:
- Iran to surrender after the third day of war ("TOTAL SURRENDER") as per IRGC officials claim was their objective
- Never allow Iran to reorganize
- Complete dismantlement of the nuclear program
- Regime change
- Iranians to rally in favor of Israel

None of those objectives were reached, IRGC officials claims IDF expect Iran to surrender at day 3 when Iran was still reorganizing

Now for Iran to move towards a win would be to kick out IAEA inspectors and leave the NPT, if those two things are done quickly, nuclear ambiguity will be applied to Iran

Iran HAS to mention that if a ceasefire is reached, any assassination or sabotage inside Iran will prompt Iran to acts immediately at the heart of Tel Aviv, i don't know if this will be mentioned but Iran HAS to set that condition for a ceasefire

 

[PakAl]

When I am watching Pahlavi now, foundation of instant organization that could be temporarily governor of Iran, his concept about economy, he as the king of kings but with majlis as most powerful body...difference comparable only with Juliani of Syria before and after his terrorist phase...

I think zionist really were sure that with first punch, Iran would so chaotic that wil lead to chance to install Pahvali...but that had to be supersonic fast operation, taking advantage of initial shock and panics...

Now chance is missed and Bibi still cant accept reality, while Trump cant waste resources on doomed project...

You misunderstood the zionist, they are testing the waters. The only issue was they faced big opposition from China, Pakistan, Algeria for a full invasion and regime change. They will be back and Iran needs to make to be ready.

 

[tsunset]

All that is great.

But you guys better learn from your mistakes (too).

If you can't compete with !sraeli F-35's strolling into your Airspace like its their backyard, it would be wise to get some quality AD Systems from China - if Russia can't help.

I'm sure the recent conflict between Pakistan/India has proven that China Equipment is just as good as the West. I'd be wise to invest in some of that & keep that RadioShack dinosaur-age crap away.

Believe me, even if their is a Ceasefire - those F-35s' will be flying over every night for reconnaissance & you guys have no way of knowing they are there.

This wasn't a question of AD "quality", but the infiltrators that destroyed a major part of AD systems within Iran

Iran has solid AD designs, but it needs to protect them from insider ATGMs/drones and produce them in bigger numbers. But HQ-19 or S-400 would always be beneficial to mix the IADS and shuffle Iranian systems with Chinese and Russian ones, just like China does with its HQ-9 and S-400

 

[PakAl]

I think Reza is in on it with the west, they are just using him to cause unrest in Iran and justify their attacks by claiming there is a rightful opposition who has a claim to the throne.

I refuse to believe Reza would have the balls to step foot inside Iran no matter the situation

It's a starting process, may take decades but they have seen the military opening on Iran, in their mind the rest will follow through such as viable opposition to the regime.

 

[Liquidator]

Military service is compulsory in Israel. Therefore no adult is innocent in Israel.

Let's cool it now.

Hopefully Israelis begin to become more rational also having experienced real TERROR.

Also, ask yourself if you were born into that society, how would you turn out? Most of us would oblige with the status quo...

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Imagine being that child.
It's a sad state of affairs.

 

[R2D2]

Instead of looking inward, Iran must develop and strengthen the Axis of Resistance as well as expand it in addition to its own economic and military development. Secondly, they should develop linkages and joint programs with Sunni resistance movements like Hamas.