Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[Ali_Baba]

Now you guys are finally understanding my concern regarding missile development.

Precision is the way forward ... ballistic missiles are crap for that.

 

[Cesur]

I’m not worried about our capabilities as much as I am about our stockpile. Do we have a missile stockpile comparable to Iran’s? Because in a prolonged conflict, quantity becomes just as important as capability.

 

[farooqbhai]

I’m not worried about our capabilities as much as I am about our stockpile. Do we have a missile stockpile comparable to Iran’s? Because in a prolonged conflict, quantity becomes just as important as capability.

Did Iran even manage to hit even a single "military target" with its BMs? I dont think so. Then what is all the hype with Iran. The Israelis literally hammered Iran and dropped JDAMs over Iranian sites using there air power ... And that is what's needed for us not large long range BM inventories

 

[RescueRanger]

Precision is the way forward ... ballistic missiles are crap for that.

This - you can have all the shiny cigars in the world, ain't worth a damn if they can hit the target.

Iran launched some 500+ missiles how many actually hit critical targets? I counted two at a push, three.

As the Latin phrase goes "Certa Cito" = Sift, Sure.

 

[Cesur]

Did Iran even manage to hit even a single "military target" with its BMs? I dont think so. Then what is all the hype with Iran. The Israelis literally hammered Iran and dropped JDAMs over Iranian sites using there air power ... And that is what's needed for us not large long range BM inventories

Given that India is practically the size of a continent and has a strong air defense system and will continue to have so in the coming years, one would expect us to possess both substantial numbers and advanced capabilities.

 

[RescueRanger]

Given that India is practically the size of a continent and has a strong air defense system and will continue to have so in the coming years, one would expect us to possess both substantial numbers and advanced capabilities.

Wrong logic. You narrow down your range of targets with intelligence, just how a good artillery commander uses forward observers to his advantage. A missile system should actively employ a full host of UAS and full spectrum intelligence operations to offer target selection options to commanders.

Certa, Cito= be swift, be sure.

 

[Falcon26]

That's just pure luck then, the Pakistani leadership found themselves "useful" during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and aligned with the US again in the WoT, but it's not as if Pakistan didn't pay any heavy price on both occasions. Yeah of course Pakistan was under nuclear sanctions, but it also avoided the crippling sanctions imposed on Iraq, Iran and other countries. But as I said, it avoided any covert and kinetic action against it's nuclear programme for several reasons, not just the Afghan war or WoT. For the US, a part of that was useful counterweight during the cold war against an overtly soviet friendly India, despite it's "non aligned" claims. Even now, the US is ok with keeping that status quo, otherwise the same action they took against Iraq and Iran would have been used against Pakistan.

The plan to attack Pakistani reactors was always in play but as I said, divine providence and India’s own fear of getting bombed also contributed that’s why they chickened out couple times.

 

[Falcon26]

Did Iran even manage to hit even a single "military target" with its BMs? I dont think so. Then what is all the hype with Iran. The Israelis literally hammered Iran and dropped JDAMs over Iranian sites using there air power ... And that is what's needed for us not large long range BM inventories

This analysis assumes that Pakistan’s future threats will be next door & not far away like Israel.

 

[farooqbhai]

This analysis assumes that Pakistan’s future threats will be next door & not far away like Israel.

Again Israelis managed to hit Iran using a completely air borne attack force not BMs not even a single BM

 

[frontline360news]

Pakistan's missile program has been a cornerstone of its defense strategy, successfully deterring larger adversaries through calculated restraint rather than reckless shows of force. But as the world enters the hypersonic age where missiles fly at unimaginable speeds and evade even advanced defenses. Can Pakistan afford to stand still?

Global powers and regional rivals like India are racing to develop these game changing weapons. While Pakistan's current arsenal remains formidable, future missile defenses could weaken its deterrent edge. Hypersonics aren't about aggression, they're about preserving the careful balance that's kept the region stable for decades.

Geopolitical analysts understand this paradox well. They may voice concerns about arms proliferation, but they also recognize that in geopolitics, staying relevant means staying ahead. The question isn't whether Pakistan should pursue hypersonic technology, but how soon it must begin to ensure its hard-won security doesn't erode in the coming years.

This isn't about joining an arms race. it's about maintaining the credible deterrence that has protected Pakistan's sovereignty against overwhelming odds. In the unforgiving calculus of modern warfare, sometimes the best way to keep the peace is to make sure no one ever doubts your ability to defend it.

 

[Watandar]

Did Iran even manage to hit even a single "military target" with its BMs? I dont think so. Then what is all the hype with Iran. The Israelis literally hammered Iran and dropped JDAMs over Iranian sites using there air power ... And that is what's needed for us not large long range BM inventories

I don't remember Pakistan hitting any Indian military or economic targets with either air force or jdam or missiles. There was lot of talk and disinfo, no real proof was ever provided. Pakistan did well defensively and flopped on offense. So it would be good to learn from Iran whose missiles penetrated a shield far stronger than India and caused considerable damage inside Israel. Pakistan has a similar need to be able to hit long range targets deep inside India.

Iran absorbed very heavy blows on the first day of the war yet was able to respond and hit Israel the same day, unlike Pakistani high command which sat confused for four days and allowed Pakistan to be hit nonstop. That would be something to look into also.

 

[Falcon26]

Again Israelis managed to hit Iran using a completely air borne attack force not BMs not even a single BM

Because it was confident of it ability to impose air superiority over Iranian airspace. Besides, Israel had to fly through Syria & Iraq - countries with no ability to deny Israeli overpass - to get to Iran. Pakistan doesn’t have this luxury. So missiles are the only credible means with which Pakistan can retaliate against distance threats.

 

[farooqbhai]

I don't remember Pakistan hitting any Indian military or economic targets with either air force or jdam or missiles. There was lot of talk and disinfo, no real proof was ever provided. Pakistan did well defensively and flopped on offense. So it would be good to learn from Iran whose missiles penetrated a shield far stronger than India and caused considerable damage inside Israel. Pakistan has a similar need to be able to hit long range targets deep inside India.

Iran absorbed very heavy blows on the first day of the war yet was able to respond and hit Israel the same day, unlike Pakistani high command which sat confused for four days and allowed Pakistan to be hit nonstop. That would be something to look into also.

Uhm no. The entire Iranian High command was wiped within 3 days, there entire C2 was compromised they shifted the 100 missile barrages (of which they were only able to do 2) on day 1 and 2 to at max 30 missiles by what day 3-4 and by the end of week they were firing anywhere from 1-10 BMs per day. On top of they did not even manage hit a single airbase let alone any military infrastructure.

Compared to that at least we successfully struck S400 at Adampur and at least hit several buildings at Udhampur airbase and Beas IA Base.

Please do show me said "Iranian response" against IDF military infrastructure which they did after taking a heavy blow on Day 1

 

[farooqbhai]

Because it was confident of it ability to impose air superiority over Iranian airspace. Besides, Israel had to fly through Syria & Iraq - countries with no ability to deny Israeli overpass - to get to Iran. Pakistan doesn’t have this luxury. So missiles are the only credible means with which Pakistan can retaliate against distance threats.

Who exactly are these "threats" against Pakistan which doesnt include crossing Syria, Iraq or Iran

 

[Distant_Observer]

Why doesn't Pakistan have indigenous hypersonic?

Their R&D needs to get better.