Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

We have noticed these "Rajaz" type of statements from Hezbollah as well. Being an Iranian you surely are in a better position to explain this behavior. This repeated behavior from Iran and Hezbollah of making big statements without little to no substantial action on the ground can not be ignored as random occurrences. There is some deep institutional problem rooted in training and organizational culture.

the only explanation is they make big threats to hide their weakness

but once the bluff is called, that no longer works

 

[mulj]

If that is all it takes, I see no reason why leadership wouldn’t do it. Its probably way more complicated than «ditch India and China will sell you anything you want»

I believe it is that simple, ok i know you are probably alluding on usa sanctions and China concerns about it but i firmly believe that boat has firmly sailed.
China also has strong economic interests in Iraq and selling weapons to Iran is one step closer to firmly protect their southern underbelly and divert american resources further from their shores. It is real politic, from that point i do not see reason of depriving you weapons unless there is something which we both can not know or just speculate.

 

[German Angst]

what did Iran claim what happen in these circumstances before the war?

and what actually happened?

what did Iran achieve?

I agree that the reaction didn‘t match the waffling of the Iranis.

BUT:

It is extremely valuable to see the hype of the impenetrable air defence of Israel being shattered. Israel has lost a big chunk of its deterrance. They would never survive without the US.

 

[Cash gk]

There are really only two things that Pakistan has that Iran doesn’t. Nukes and a good air force. Apart from help with their air force there’s not much else we can offer. In most other things, like economy, education, political and judicial system etc they’re much more advanced.

However, the Pakistani public wholeheartedly supports Iran, for whatever that’s worth.

Agree. But Pakistan’s Air Force is one hell of a thing.

 

[Sipahsalar]

Given that no Israeli jets were shot down anywhere(3-4 large drones), i think Iran needs to be pragmatic over how effective the local AD designs are, and what gaps they may need to plug externally. They will need to supplement local designs, with external procurement from China ( and not Russia because their stuff just doesn't work !!! ) to close capability gaps.

The cost for Israeli air craft was minimal. Apart from ballistic missiles nothing Iran did was able to extract a cost from Israel, that means deterrence has not been established. They will do it again but better.

 

[ShapurII]

the only explanation is they make big threats to hide their weakness

but once the bluff is called, that no longer works

Let's not forget that this all started when Trump called Khamenei's bluff and assassinated Gen. Soleimani 24 hours after Khamenei said "We will do whatever we want and the US can't do a damn thing".

 

[mangekyo]

Qaani is alive and seen in public again

Qaani, Shamkhani, and Nasirzadeh live despite Zionist rumours that they were killed

@Immortals @ShapurII

Shouldn’t we retire them and remove their security clearance just in case they are Mossad?

 

[Persian Gulf]

I agree that the reaction didn‘t match the waffling of the Iranis.

BUT:

It is extremely valuable to see the hype of the impenetrable air defence of Israel being shattered. Israel has lost a big chunk of its deterrance. They would never survive without the US.

Iran fired 500+ missiles at Israel and only achieved c. 30-50 good impacts

I would say their air defence performed very well. how would Iranian air defence fare against 500 ballistic missiles?

if we continued firing 100+ missiles at Israel per day from this point onwards, we could expose their air defence limitations, but we were not able to do that.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Wait what?? Is this true?

Might be referencing his tweet about China buying Iranian oil. Unfortunately, there is now a incentive to post clickbait on Twitter for interaction money.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Let's not forget that this all started when Trump called Khamenei's bluff and assassinated Gen. Soleimani 24 hours after Khamenei said "We will do whatever we want and the US can't do a damn thing".

and then yet again they repeated the same mistake

Hajizadeh don't worry nothing will happen and a few weeks later he was killed in his bunker

Khamenei said they can't do a damn thing about our nuclear program and days later the US and Israel bombed every known enrichment site

you would think they would learn from this, but somehow they never do.

 

[Nevsky]

Shouldn’t we retire them and remove their security clearance just in case they are Mossad?

Thats Stalin kind of paranoia.

 

[Vapnope]

There is no global south, we fought alone and there was no help to begin with ...
Even now, it seems we are our own, we must rebuild our strength by ourselves ...

Nobody can survive alone, not even US. This is something that Europeans realized while east remained isolated. We can see how it is going for each one of us.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

People admire bravery, not surrender. Even if you lose, lose with courage and honour. This is what Iran did they fought they fought bravely they showed courage.. world admire them

Again, you speak as if the leaders are representative. For you, yes... not for those who play them as pieces on the board. They must play their role.
At the end Pakistan plays a tightrope in a whirlwind. I do not agree with much they do and would be their last spokesperson. But I cannot evade or dodge reality.
The alternative is worse, especially now...
When the time is ripe... People will root for their own and not pretenders on the pedestal.

 

[mangekyo]

Wait what?? Is this true?

Which sanctions? All of them?

 

[Cash gk]

I agree that the reaction didn‘t match the waffling of the Iranis.

BUT:

It is extremely valuable to see the hype of the impenetrable air defence of Israel being shattered. Israel has lost a big chunk of its deterrance. They would never survive without the US.

Israel has now exposed its vulnerability to the world. Its air defense system has proven to be breachable. This reality has given hope and confidence to many countries in the region—that if Iran, despite facing heavy sanctions and intense pressure, could inflict such damage on Israel in just eleven or twelve days of war, then others can too.

Israel lacks strategic depth. That’s why it had to move its fighter jets to Cyprus under British protection and launch attacks from there. For those operations, the U.S., U.K., and the West provided continuous air refueling, spare parts, and advanced weapons. The truth is: without their support, Israel is nothing.

This was not just a defeat for Israel, but also a major blow to its backers. This war has exposed their vulnerabilities as well. The entire balance of power in the region has now shifted.