Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

You have no credibility and there are still many weapons hidden underground. Do you think they will reveal everything in 12 days of war? You know nothing about war strategy. You have to be really reckless to think that Iran revealed everything in 12 days. You have done a lot of bipolarity and I am not the only one to have noticed it.

my mood has changed a lot with the ups and downs of war. I am a commentator on a discussion forum, not a general or strategist

but your delusions about F-4SM+++ and secret quantum laser weapons has never abated, so I agree you are more consistent than me, congratulations

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Wait what?? Is this true?

What did Araqchi offer in Moscow?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Guys dont forget what Trump said last week when asked why he didn't ask Israel to cease fire he said you don't ask a winning side to ceasefire when they winning. So one can only assume israel was losing for Trump to ask for ceasefire

Alternate theory.

Bibi snubbed the President. The President doesn't like to be snubbed.

Letting this go on as long as it did may have been his way of communicating that's not a good idea if you want American assistance.

 

[Be dazzled]

 

[mangekyo]

You were close ally to India, China as superpower same as USA has its own gepolitical security calculus, once you ditch cordiality with India and kick their economic interests from Iran, i am pretty sure that they will gladly sell you everything you ask for, it is up to your diplomacy to iron flat conditions for military purchases from China.

If that is all it takes, I see no reason why leadership wouldn’t do it. Its probably way more complicated than «ditch India and China will sell you anything you want»

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

IRI will ignore it because they are desperate for ceasefire and surrender

IRI has done well under the circumstances. They will need to cover the lack of air defense in Western Iran, and they will need to find a solution to the terrorist menace inside the country.

IRI is not desperate. According to this Russian lady who is part of the Russian security establishment, Iran missiles managed to send the Mossad boss and the whole IDF’s cyber team 6 feet under the ground (if you get the gist of the story) plus the whole Israeli R&D has been turned into good ashe.

 

[Cash gk]

This thread is not about Pakistan. So in short... if the powers that be that curated a fix they had to forego, it was a loss foe them too, as much as for the people. In here is the crux... they had that available as a play and a rook they could lose. People however develop an affection, harder to let go. The system that is supposed to provide a premier every few years actively disuades such affection. By and large the politicians are loathed... the system has greater holes and real representation doesn't exist so pretenders take that space and fight their own... create miserable conditions among near and dear for distant and fleeting.

People admire bravery, not surrender. Even if you lose, lose with courage and honour. This is what Iran did they fought they fought bravely they showed courage.. world admire them

 

[Mutakalim]

who wants to find what IRGC generals threatened to do if USA bombed Fordow or Natanz before this war ? and compare with what they actually did ?

We have noticed these "Rajaz" type of statements from Hezbollah as well. Being an Iranian you surely are in a better position to explain this behavior. This repeated behavior from Iran and Hezbollah of making big statements without little to no substantial action on the ground can not be ignored as random occurrences. There is some deep institutional problem rooted in training and organizational culture.

 

[mangekyo]

Well, they are going to up their missile production significantly after this. Bad news for us

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

my mood has changed a lot with the ups and downs of war. I am a commentator on a discussion forum, not a general or strategist

but your delusions about F-4SM+++ and secret quantum laser weapons has never abated, so I agree you are more consistent than me, congratulations

Iranian Vice President: We did not demonstrate our full capabilities in the confrontation with the Zionist entity

 

[mangekyo]

IRI will ignore it because they are desperate for ceasefire and surrender

Are those launched from inside from sleeper cells? That wouldn’t violate the ceasefire. If it is launched directly from Israel, it means they are testing how desperate IRI is for ceasefire and how much fight is left in them.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

People of Gaza? Why they are animals! The Queen James Bible tells me so.

Most Americans are retarded when it comes to religion. They don't even know King James was a flaming homo.

Every mainstream Church in America is compromised. Very easy to prove this. Pick up a church bulletin, before service on Sunday and look where it was printed.

All across America, the same Zionist owned printer in Minnesota.

Hang around in the lobby before service. You can spot the Jew hanging around to make sure everything is Kosher.

When the Palestinian/Israeli conflict broke out, I accepted an invitation to attend church.

Left within 45 minutes, disgusted with the pro Jewish selective Bible verses.

Preacher jumped from Bible verse from Bible verse, all across the Old Testament, to tell his sheep the Bandit State is God working miracles in real time.

The deacon told me I am very spiritual, but I need fine tuning.

His son, eight years ago in his first sermon being ordained, made me stand up in front of the congregation on Easter Sunday, and told his flock I was the best example of good old Christianity. Helping others in need.

Now, because I still try my best to fear the Lord, I am a non entity. The deacon had the nerve to show up on my front porch to tell me I am very spiritual, but I need some fine tuning. Thanked him and never discussed religion with him again.

The Bible Belt is lost. Dripping with Jewish propaganda.

Something the "experts" on Mideast and Islam, in the circuit, will loathe!
These are the same who are pushing the agenda and setting the pieces on the chessboard. For them they have to place Persia correctly on the board for it to play the role in the prophecy(as they purport it to be).

The theater of the ultimate order. If you were an onlooker... you wouldn't believe your eyes... but it is great that you described your part of it!

 

[Persian Gulf]

IRI has done well under the circumstances.

what did Iran claim would happen in these circumstances before the war?

and what actually happened?

what did Iran achieve?

 

[Tamerlane]

And that’s where you’re wrong.

Pakistan isn’t just another random country. With a population of over 250 million, a nuclear arsenal, a military ranked among the world’s strongest, and a strategic position between superpowers, Pakistan is a nation of immense untapped influence. But influence means little if we allow foreign powers to dictate who should lead us.

Turkiye stood by Erdogan. Iran stood by their revolution. Despite sanctions, assassinations, and global isolation, Iranians didn’t surrender—they buried their martyrs with honour, not shame. Their people fought like lions, not puppets. Even as their president and generals were killed, their system never allowed foreign hands to pick their leaders.

And then look at us.

Pakistan handed over its elected Prime Minister, Imran Khan—arguably the most popular and honest leader since Quaid-e-Azam—at the request of a foreign power. No resistance. No mass uprising. No institutional courage. What message does that send to the world? That we are for sale?

Respect is earned when a nation stands with dignity, not when it kneels quietly during regime change.

Iranian generals died with honour—ours live in bunkers and face daily public abuse. Why? Because they surrendered the people’s mandate. And yet, they demand respect?

We are not a weak state. We are just led by weak men.

Until we stop bowing down to foreign dictation and stand for our own democratic choices, we will continue to be humiliated globally.

There are really only two things that Pakistan has that Iran doesn’t. Nukes and a good air force. Apart from help with their air force there’s not much else we can offer. In most other things, like economy, education, political and judicial system etc they’re much more advanced.

However, the Pakistani public wholeheartedly supports Iran, for whatever that’s worth.

 

[German Angst]

Let‘s just be happy that no more Iranian civilians hopefully get killed. That‘s the most important thing.