Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Assessment that Iran won, according to this sane Indian. May God guide him further, ameen
 
One thing some people don’t seem to get:

Whatever damage Israel suffers — whether it's to military or civilian infrastructure — the Israeli government will pay for it. But in reality, that money often comes from U.S. and Western support.

But who will pay for Iran’s losses?

I truly hope Iran recovers quickly and rebuilds its infrastructure stronger than before. But going forward, Iran must learn to rely on itself.

China won’t step in — its interests are tightly aligned with Arab countries, and it has already distanced itself from Iran in recent years and kind of betrayed Iran many times in the UN.

Russia is deeply tied up with the war in Ukraine and is in no real position to provide serious military or financial backing even after the war end.

Iran needs to find a way to break out of isolation, strengthen its economy, and build a self-sustaining defense capability. Don’t expect help — the only way forward is to become strong enough to face these situations independently.

Anyway, Iran's performance was not bad enough during this war as well. They did very well during the last phase of the war when talking about offensive attacks.
 
Pakistanithinktank said:
Iranian delegation visited AVIC and might be leaning toward J-10C and JF-17 Block 3.5
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Their air force commander inspected J-10C not long ago. Their defense minister is in China to attend SCO. If they want to buy, don't have to see it again.
 
ShapurII said:
"Can" and "will" are different things. China could potentially counterbalance the American influence, but it won't do that.

In fact, I can assure you that the chance of Gen-Z in the US counterbalancing the Zionist hold over the US policies in the next decade is much more than hoping for the Chinese to play any positive role.

Iran has been on her own since 2006. It's nothing new.
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Being alone since 2006 hasn’t worked out too well. The idea should be to do better in the future. It doesn’t reflect too well on Iran’s foreign policy that, while Israel has dozens of countries helping it, Iran has none.

Isolationism is not a good policy. This war should have made Iranians realize that it has vast numbers of supporters in the world. Especially among ordinary Muslims, most of whom are Sunni.

Iranians are too much split between secular Persian chauvinists and Shia-Islamic extremists. Both sides sell an ideology of vilifying others. Iranians with a balanced and moderate outlook would do better in reaching out and building alliances with well-wishers of Iran, both Muslim and non-Muslim.
 
ety said:
I don't think China has betrayed Iran in anyway. It's just China had voted in UNSC not as expected by Iran when the two countries' interests not aligned. AS a fact, some Iranians had betrayed China by informing US gov about the business deals between Chinese companies Huawei and ZTE and Iran, that's how Huawei's CFO Meng had been detained by US for 3 years and ZTE lost billions of dollars in fine.
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It's the thousandth time that it's brought up without a shred of evidence that Iran sold her. And it's a 2018 issue. Our relations started to go down the toilet after 2008.

Can you tell me how it served China's interests to bring the economy of Iran on the verge of collapse? Walk me through it please. Step by step. How did it benefit China to put sanctions on a country that its volume of trade with you had reached $30 billion dollars and was planned to surpass $50 billion dollars?
 
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Pakistanithinktank said:
Iranian delegation visited AVIC and might be leaning toward J-10C and JF-17 Block 3.5
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Why wouldn't Iran pursue similar approach with DPRK? Here is they have an ally who is more than willing to support whatever in their disposal. This ally has also been preparing for the kind of situation that Iran found itself in.
 
Tamerlane said:
Being alone since 2006 hasn’t worked out too well. The idea should be to do better in the future. It doesn’t reflect too well on Iran’s foreign policy that, while Israel has dozens of countries helping it, Iran has none.

Isolationism is not a good policy. This war should have made Iranians realize that it has vast numbers of supporters in the world. Especially among ordinary Muslims, most of whom are Sunni.

Iranians are too much split between secular Persian chauvinists and Shia-Islamic extremists. Both sides sell an ideology of vilifying others. Iranians with a balanced and moderate outlook would do better in reaching out and building alliances with well-wishers of Iran, both Muslim and non-Muslim.
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We didn't choose to go down that path. It was imposed on us by our so-called friends (Russia and China). It's easy to see why Iran has no friends. We're in the Middle East where the entire region and all of our neighbors are controlled by the US either directly or indirectly. It's not really hard to see that, is it? You just need to see how everyone does exactly what the US dictates at the end and nobody dares to challenge the US.

The difference between the US imperialism and these post-communist global powers (China and Russia) is that the US allows you to prosper, even helps you prosper through USAID, sharing knowledge, technology and education with you, but then buys everyone at the highest positions in your system with money to control your country and then empties your pocket through monopolized trade.
However, these post-communist countries hinder your growth and keep you impoverished and isolated to make you depend on them. That's been their style for decades. Look at North Korea, if you don't believe me. Iranians have been smart enough not to turn into North Korea yet, while fighting the most severe sanctions.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
Why wouldn't Iran pursue similar approach with DPRK? Here is they have an ally who is more than willing to support whatever in their disposal. This ally has also been preparing for the kind of situation that Iran found itself in.
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Can North Korea offer alternative to J-10C & JF-17 ?
 
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