Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

BigMela2onin said:
Pressure the US
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What for? The ceasefire was their idea.

BigMela2onin said:
What are you implying he came to do? Again nominally we are "strategic partners." Their minister of defense probably came to say empty words about how they support us after being attacked.
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I have no idea. I wasn't there, but I guess he probably came here to tell us that we should not respond to the Israeli 2024 aggression.
 
Hassan Al-Somal said:
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This is how I remember the events during 1996-2001

90's Hollywood was busy exploring ideas about Muslim Terrorism before anything the idea was promoted in movies on large scale. It was common to see the idea of Arabs/Muslims as Terrorist in movies

In 1996 Bill Clinton pushed for Peace accords it was signed in White house
  • Bill was embroiled in Intern related impeachment after, so he could not follow up on Israel to implement their side of deal
  • 25 year later people also have suspicion of his visits to Epstein Island, possible there was further evidence against him (at the time people did not knew about this)
  • Eventually Bill was kicked out of Government due to impeachment

G. W Bush came in with heavy desire for Local Economy matter not foreign matters, he was not super leaning toward Israel the normal diplomatic distance was maintained in international audience sense
His original Election drive was local economy
  • Israel-Palestine conflict happened , vetoed in UN
  • In Close proximity to events an incident happened in USA in 2001 which started chain of events leading to war in 7-8 countries in Middle east (Source American Army General private interview)



Israel have a tainted past
 
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Watandar said:
If Israel has not felt any pain from TP3, they would not have ended the war after 12 days. They would have continued the slaughter for years just like you see in Gaza.
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And because of that a lot of analysts like Col. McGregor are saying Iranis are "stupid" to have agreed to the ceasefire now. As it is US defense companies are under sanction from the sole rare earths producer/refiner China, they would have struggled to replenish the interceptors for US itself leave alone Israel.
 
Watandar said:
This is horrible. It rewards genocide and ethnic cleansing and evil and ensures the Mideast will remain stuck with dictatorships forever.
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Come to think of it, many Colonial States created the world's status quo till now after genociding Natives too.

No accountability, no reparations, no returning of the land to the original Natives, and no "going back to where they come from" for those settler colonizers. It rewards those who steal land from the natives and punishes the original natives of the land.

When will White People and Israelis go back to Europe from "Israel", Australia, New Zealand, and America?

If they ain't going back to Europe then as payback Muslims might as well just replace Native Whites in UK, France and America to repay what they did to Natives in Americas, Africa and Asia when they replaced the Natives to become the Majority Owners of the Land despite coming later as Immigrant Colonizers.
 
mangekyo said:
It depends on how define victory. Some still claim Taliban defeated the US. But look at what state Afghanistan is in. And Iran is surrounded by these Arab traitors who are protected by the US and now they have a second coalition including Israel. I will have to say Iran lost this one. The region wants to be enslaved, you can’t fight this mindset.
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But I am somehow sure that this is primarily against China, Israel is in war already that will not finish good for them, while arab military coalition will go after Iran in the next few centuries if reforms are going strong enough...
 
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They send oil to Turkey which then sends it to Israel. Its not exactly a secret that Azerbaijan and Turkey is in bed with Israel.
 
kastor ville said:
Ratcliffe is an AIPAC plant....as the head of the CIA, if you can believe that.
His assessment is supposedly what made Trump decide he had to bomb Iran....He also has Rubio, Hegseth and Miller helping him out. On the other side of the table is a very calibrated JD Vance with Tulsi Gabbard who are not necessarily for a war, but have to be very careful not too seem anti Israel.

PS: if you're keeping score, you've got Ratcliffe who is bankrolled by AIPAC and nominated for the CIA top office....you have Rubio, Mariam Adelson's favorite Cuban pool boy.....then you have Miller, who doesn't need an introduction. We also have Hegseth with his Crusader tattoo....and his famous "KILL ALL MUSLIMS" drunken rant in the papers. Lastly, let's not forget Stafanik...and probably a dozen or so AIPAC goons in secondary positions through the WH and admin.
Look at all of these names.....there is a common string.........
And that's why the USA is occupied.
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JD is a desciple of white nationalist techno-fascist Peter Theil. JD's incoherent ramblings on Islamist take of the West are well known. Tulsi is a right wing extremist hindu and hasn't opposed one war where the majority victims were Muslim. To expect them to have pushed back against strikes on Iran is rather naive.
 
vmro said:
But I am somehow sure that this is primarily against China, Israel is in war already that will not finish good for them, while arab military coalition will go after Iran in the next few centuries if reforms are going strong enough...
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China might rival the US. in tech and trade, but in geopolitics? They’re still in diapers. Favoring the Arabs over Iran only proves how clueless they are on the long game. This is why they can never be a true power and will eventually kneel to the US.
 
Shakehands said:
As a Pakistani I really don’t understand why some Pakistani having problem with iran and India friendship? If Iran think India is better for them so let them be friends. as long as they don’t harm us we are good.We should focus on how better we can develop our relationship with Iran and other friendly countries. Pakistani should come out this nutshell of ummaism cancer because in the end no one is coming to save us! We should focus more on building our self then running for this ummah!
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Those are mutually exclusive things, India can never be friendly with another nation without exploiting that relationship to harm Pakistan. India's obsession with Pakistan is never ending.
 
mangekyo said:
China might rival the US. in tech and trade, but in geopolitics? They’re still in diapers. Favoring the Arabs over Iran only proves how clueless they are on the long game. This is why they can never be a true power and will eventually kneel to the US.
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Favoring the Arabs over Iran because Arabs have proven to be a more reliable partner to work with and more beneficial to China's interests. It is not clueless. It is very "clueful".
 
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Just acquiring JC-10C or even J-35s will not suffice, Iran will have to invest heavily in the whole Chinese eco-system, AWACS, Satellite hookup, AD, EW platforms, etc.

I highly doubt US/Israel will allow this build up to occur without attacking it preemptively or threatening China with sanctions or other coercions.
 
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