Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Adam Barfy]

Iran one would hope will learn from the lax security, underestimating their enemy. They need to think 30 years ahead and not be thinking short term moves. IMO they need to forge a strategic relationship with either the US or China. In the mideast and beyond, these are the camps most countries will need to fall into.

They have a long term strategic partnership with China.
They are a full member of BRICS+ and the SCO.

What more do you want?

 

[gambit]

well if you looked at the satellite images from that briefing you'd see two identical craters (6 MOPs each) and in total 14 MOP's were dropped 12 on fordo and 2 on Natanz.

What he is trying to insinuate is that the attacks never happened.

 

[Adam Barfy]

And how long is that 'now'? Who is going to help reconstitute the air force? Russia? China? Neither of them have done anything other than sit in their capitals printing out meaningless statements and Russia is the worse off with trying to subdue Ukraine. So 'now' could be one month or one yr or even one decade.

Am ex USAF, F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm). I am all about airpower, buddy. I got a hard-on whenever I got in an F-16 COCKpit. My two favorite places are the USAF National Museum and the Wright Brothers memorial. You lose airspace sovereignty? You are next to nothing.

Oh no. I’m so scared

 

[gambit]

Oh no. I’m so scared

After what happened in Iran, you should be. But it is fine if you are not because we want you to be fine.

 

[PakFactor]

There's still no credible evidence that Israeli operated out of Azerbaijani territory, at least with the consent of the Azerbaijani government.

There were videos from Iranian citizens living along the Iranian-Azerbaijan border during the first few days of the conflict stating they saw drones enter through the airspace.

I wouldn't rule it out.

 

[A1Kaid]

“Tehran is beautiful from above, I hope to visit one day,” says Israeli pilot after Iran strike.

Israeli Air Force pilot tells of his experience in Operation Rising Lion | The Jerusalem Post

“We’ve spent years preparing for an Iran operation. You always keep a sliver of hope that maybe we’ll never need it, that the threat can be removed some other way," A. said.

www.jpost.com

 

[Gripen9]

 

[Gripen9]

 

[Gripen9]

Its really not a big deal....special operations routinely deploy and operate in enemy land.....

Pakistan routinely operates inside India and infact we have been doing it since 1965 war, Kargil, Afghanistan war, Kashmir rountinely and so on....

Have we been shuttling two C-130 loads worth of men and equipment into kashmir and back? If true that is awesome news. During 65 war, PAF did drop SSG paratroopers against IAF airfields in an ill fated operation. Majority were routed and captured with little or no success.

This looked almost like Eagle Claw "lite" operation.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I dont know what you mean by whipping boy, but their intervention, along with Russia, was absolutely instrumental in saving the regime from collapse early on and helped extend the cilvil war a decade longer than it should've been, and caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, destruction and fracturing of our country. This couldn't have happened without their interventions. So no, its not wrongfully being blamed in its role, it was pivotal. Only Turkey and US had as meaningful impact as the war dragged on, it became everyone playground in later years, at great cost to us.

you mention that but you fail to mention they intervened after anybody else intervened

 

[That_Guy]

There were videos from Iranian citizens living along the Iranian-Azerbaijan border during the first few days of the conflict stating they saw drones enter through the airspace.

I wouldn't rule it out.

Sure, but I very much prefer hard evidence in this case.

Eye witnesses can be unreliable when it comes to military matters.

 

[kastor ville]

 

[kastor ville]

So you pretty much agreed that there is no valid justification for greater than %20 enrichment other than for nuclear weapons development. US exit of JCPOA is irrelevant. Iran can still abide by the agreement. You want to use that capability as a 'bargaining chip'? Fine. Admit it. But also admit that it is about nuclear weapons development, and nothing else.

When you have something that makes your rivals want to talk to you....are you willing to leave to behind? If you answered yes...then that's why you're a soldier and not a strategist.

 

[Hack-Hook]

221 + 1 = 222

Total seats 223

Am I missing something? Who's the last guy, and why wasn't their vote counted?

speaker of parliament
Mr. Qalibaf

 

[Unknowntruth]

And how long is that 'now'? Who is going to help reconstitute the air force? Russia? China? Neither of them have done anything other than sit in their capitals printing out meaningless statements and Russia is the worse off with trying to subdue Ukraine. So 'now' could be one month or one yr or even one decade.

Am ex USAF, F-111 (Cold War) then F-16 (Desert Storm). I am all about airpower, buddy. I got a hard-on whenever I got in an F-16 COCKpit. My two favorite places are the USAF National Museum and the Wright Brothers memorial. You lose airspace sovereignty? You are next to nothing.

You need serious help, we don’t need all those extra details. What next? Are we going to start measuring sizes?