Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

HAMAS is always Turkey/Qatar ally not Iran ...

They are salafist deep down.

 

[Assyrian209]

Hamas admitted itself to launching October 7th....

Think about it? How coincidence do you think it is that they launched it on Putin´s birthday? It was the Iranians trying to gift Putin a birthday present by disrupting this deal called the deal of the century and also lifting the pressure of Putin..

Only the Iranians are the trying to act as if they know nothing here but everyone knows this why October 7 was launched and it had only one purpose kill the deal of the century.

It was high chess move

 

[Musings]

We never told Hamas to launch the war. Even Israeli and American intel. community agree on this and publicly stated it in the beginning of the war.

I have long speculated that in fact, October 7th was a plan by Ikhwan Al-Muslimin (Qatar and Turkey) to drag Iran into a war that would eventually lead to the collapse of our so-called "Axis of Resistance" in the region, and it worked.

Are you some sort of official mouthpiece?
You can say what your opinion is or what you think but to constantly use words like WE is in my opinion wrong

 

[Assyrian209]

I have long speculated that in fact, October 7th was a plan by Ikhwan Al-Muslimin (Qatar and Turkey) to drag Iran into a war that would eventually lead to the collapse of our so-called "Axis of Resistance" in the region, and it worked.

I swear to god NOBODY on god´s earth could have calculated that the Axis of resistance will collapse because nothing hanged together it just happened to be this way..

But someone could have calculated that the deal of the century will get disrupted

 

[ShapurII]

I’m telling you. Iran will get blamed for everything. Arabs only respond to sticks, you can’t give them carrots. Turkey literally gassed Syrians! They love Turkey.

He isn't wrong though. You can't change the course of history.
We are trying to fight something that is out of our control and we're paying too heavy a price for it.

Arabs collectively need to be humiliated more than they have been to finally wake up. Syria needs to taste a few years or decades of being under the rule of Turkey. Palestinians need to experience genocide. And most importantly, the revolutionary Iran has to be destroyed for these people to finally realize how much we were helping the Palestinian cause.

The Islamic Republic will be destroyed soon. Either in a coup or by foreign intervention. I really hope the former would happen, but if things do not change and we continue to pursue our old policies without building the bomb, the latter becomes more and more likely every passing month.

 

[Assyrian209]

LOL you still think of analyzing China's military power from your perspective as a citizen of a Non-Superpower country.

China can easily defeat the US naval surface forces already now with their Hypersonic IRBMs which can destroy any USN Aircraft Carrier easily only. They have hundreds of those Hypersonic Glide Vehicles alone, which has Global Strike capability backed by the Beidou system.

The only problem is the dozens of US submarines that can fire Tomahawks and Stealth Bombers, and even that China has Counter-Stealth Radars and countless CIWS and a very dense AD network to minimize the damage.

Chinese Industrial Capability is 1000X times Iran's, so you have no idea what China is capable of.

China doesn't want to challenge US now because it wants to be sure it can dominate and overwhelm US in all aspects of tech before they are comfortable in taking action, and they believe time is on their side as they restrict Rare Earths to USA limiting their ability to manufacture military products.

Ofcourse anyone can analyse China.. Look the US won´t use the ocean but will come by land.

China will get overwhelm with massive allies and it´s passivity will do China in before they even get started. Do you know what a sucker punch is? The Chinese won´t even see the Americans coming

 

[ShapurII]

Are you some sort of official mouthpiece?
You can say what your opinion is or what you think but to constantly use words like WE is in my opinion wrong

It is also the official standing of Iran that we were not the perpetrator of October 7th. Even Hamas has denied Iran's involvement in the planning or the timing of the attack.

And here's a CBS report for you on what the Americans think about it:

U.S. intelligence indicates Iranian officials surprised by Hamas attack on Israel

The intelligence preliminarily suggests that Tehran was not directly involved in the launch of Hamas' assault on Oct. 7.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Assyrian209]

He isn't wrong though. You can't change the course of history.
We are trying to fight something that is out of our control and we're paying too heavy a price for it.

Arabs collectively need to be humiliated more than they have been to finally wake up. Syria needs to taste a few years or decades of being under the rule of Turkey. Palestinians need to experience genocide. And most importantly, the revolutionary Iran has to be destroyed for these people to finally realize how much we were helping the Palestinian cause.

The Islamic Republic will be destroyed soon. Either in a coup or by foreign intervention. I really hope the former would happen, but if things do not change and we continue to pursue our old policies without building the bomb, the latter becomes more and more likely every passing month.

Just look at this mouth brather he is revealing himself

 

[ShapurII]

I swear to god NOBODY on god´s earth could have calculated that the Axis of resistance will collapse because nothing hanged together it just happened to be this way..

But someone could have calculated that the deal of the century will get disrupted

Why not? They were preparing to take over Syria (for months) while Hezbollah and Iran were busy. I can hardly believe that "nobody" calculated it.

The deal of the century is bad for Palestine, not for Iran. In the case of Iran, Arab countries had been working with Israel and the US against us for decades. That deal changed nothing for us, but it literally sidelined the idea of a Palestinian state.

 

[Assyrian209]

It is also the official standing of Iran that we were not the perpetrator of October 7th. Even Hamas has denied Iran's involvement in the planning or the timing of the attack.

And here's a CBS report for you on what the Americans think about it:

U.S. intelligence indicates Iranian officials surprised by Hamas attack on Israel

The intelligence preliminarily suggests that Tehran was not directly involved in the launch of Hamas' assault on Oct. 7.

www.cbsnews.com

Fuk what the US says?

Why would Iran admit to that?

Who had to gain from that ATTACK? lITERALLY NOBODY BUT IRAN...

You know what the Iranian media were writting months before that they were trying to start a war in West Bank saying they will turn West Bank into Gaza?

 

[Assyrian209]

Why not? They were preparing to take over Syria (for months) while Hezbollah and Iran were busy. I can hardly believe that "nobody" calculated it.

The deal of the century is bad for Palestine, not for Iran. In the case of Iran, Arab countries had been working with Israel and the US against us for decades. That deal changed nothing for us, but it literally sidelined the idea of a Palestinian state.

Nobody could have predicted the fall of Assad? It was unforseeable

 

[Assyrian209]

If you investigating a crime scene..

1. Their has to be motive first
2. Who does it benefit the act
3. Political objective

Iran reaped every benefit from this war they sought from this attack they normalized ties with everyone during this period.

Why would the Palestinians care about a US-Saudi Deal? Haniyah, Sinwar and company are funded by Iran in cash

 

[ShapurII]

Just look at this mouth brather he is revealing himself

First of all, it's brother, not brather lol
Secondly, it was your own statement. Here is what you said:

Best thing you can do is to sit down.. You aren´t liberating Palestine and never were gonna be. This is not the time for war you know that as well then why tell Hamas to launch the war..

Hypocrite much? It was your own statement that Iran should sit down and stay away from all this and let history do what it should.

Fuk what the US says?

Why would Iran admit to that?

Who had to gain from that ATTACK? lITERALLY NOBODY BUT IRAN

The US has the world's leading intelligence community.
The Islamic Republic of Iran is not a coward like Arabs. We have always admitted to our support for resistance groups, but October 7th was done without coordination with us and it led to catastrophic results.
Turkey and Qatar gained a lot from this war. They took control of Syria to begin with. Hamas is more or less intact as an organization even though 60K Palestinians have been killed in an ongoing genocide. They will have new recruits when the genocide is over. Our Arab neighbors finally reached their decade-long dream of an Israeli-American attack on Iran. Iran was the main target of all this and gained nothing from it.

 

[Assyrian209]

First of all, it's brother, not brather lol
Secondly, it was your own statement. Here is what you said:

Hypocrite much? It was your own statement that Iran should sit down and stay away from all this and let history do what it should.


The US has the world's leading intelligence community.
The Islamic Republic of Iran is not a coward like Arabs. We have always admitted to our support for resistance groups, but October 7th was done without coordination with us and it led to catastrophic results.
Turkey and Qatar gained a lot from this war. They took control of Syria to begin with. Hamas is more or less intact as an organization even though 60K Palestinians have been killed in an ongoing genocide. They will have new recruits when the genocide is over. Our Arabs neighbors finally reached their decade-long dream of an Israeli-American attack on Iran. Iran was the main target of all this and gained nothing from it.

You are to mentality retarded and to fanatic to speak to or have a normal conversation with.

One of your proxies launched a reckless attack which was a gift to you and Putin but you now deny it while it makes no sense.. Why the fuk even on October 7th.. Why not other days..

Why Hamas launched the attack? tell me?

This guy comes with fantasy saying Qatar and Turkey were behind it.. NOBODY ON GOD´S earth could have predicted that.

It is like starting a domino effect from Kazakhstan randomly and with it India goes? Who could have calculated or predicted that on before hand? Ofcourse nobody

 

[ShapurII]

You are to mentality retarded and to fanatic to speak to or have a normal conversation with.

One of your proxies launched a reckless attack which was a gift to you and Putin but you know deny it while it makes no sense..

Why Hamas launched the attacked?

This guy comes with fantasy saying Qatar and Turkey were behind it.. NOBODY ON GOD´S earth could have predicted that.

It is like starting a domino effect from Kazakhstan randomly and with it India goes? Who could have calculated or predicted that on before hand? Ofcourse nobody

Oh, the irony! Imagine a Salafist calls me a fanatic.

Nobody told you to have a conversation with me. I don't enjoy your retarded deranged ideas either.