Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Sarhang]

Never has our country been so insulted. IR needs to put this guy in his place or they will lose out popular support faster than they think.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114756430889057942

 

[Nuffle]

LOL you still think of analyzing China's military power from your perspective as a citizen of a Non-Superpower country.

China can easily defeat the US naval surface forces already now with their Hypersonic IRBMs which can destroy any USN Aircraft Carrier easily only. They have hundreds of those Hypersonic Glide Vehicles alone, which has Global Strike capability backed by the Beidou system.

The only problem is the dozens of US submarines that can fire Tomahawks and Stealth Bombers, and even that China has Counter-Stealth Radars and countless CIWS and a very dense AD network to minimize the damage.

Chinese Industrial Capability is 1000X times Iran's, so you have no idea what China is capable of.

China doesn't want to challenge US now because it wants to be sure it can dominate and overwhelm US in all aspects of tech before they are comfortable in taking action, and they believe time is on their side as they restrict Rare Earths to USA limiting their ability to manufacture military products.

Trends may change. Just remembering that, but despite this, I believe that China will catch up with the US after a decade if the trend does not change. But looking honestly, I still do not see China surpassing the US as a global superpower in the military, political and diplomatic sense.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Persian Gulf

What's the general view of Iran's military planners, currently?

Is it back to business? Or, is there an actual eye opening realizing that Iran is severely handicapped due to a lack of vital equipment?

With this video, and Iranian officials rushing to China for alleged emergency defense procurements, I get the feeling that Iran is rushing to prepare for the inevitable next round.

that's an old video AFAIK

 

[Persian Gulf]

America used about 20% of the global stockpile of "THAAD" missiles in 11 days to defend "Israel"

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[That_Guy]

that's an old video AFAIK

Fair enough, but the question remains.

What's the general view currently?

 

[Liquidator]

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This is why I was against JF17s to there.
Too much data will go to others....

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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Yet IR accepted the ceasefire, why? Because everyone in a position of power is either stupid or a traitor.

The Israelis were out of interceptors and the empire (America) wanted to alleviate the pressure from them. At the same time, Trump doesn't want to remain in prolong conflict. Iran also needed the ceasefire to fix the air defense issue in the West of the country. The difference here is Israel has US and E3 replenishing their missile interceptors, offensive weapons, and fuel tankers, whereas Iran doesn't have anyone coming to their aid.

 

[StrategicBear]

Before Iran could acquire new fighter jets and AD systems, expect israhell to attack Iran. It's probably going to be like Assad's Syria, they may bomb any equipment delivery, installation or so forth.

Then Iran must incur disproportionate losses to them to not make it routine.

 

[That_Guy]

America used about 20% of the global stockpile of "THAAD" missiles in 11 days to defend "Israel"

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I've said this before, the US won't lose its super power status because it loses a war against China or another country.

It will lose its super power status defending Israel, using man, material, and diplomatic leverage.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Never has our country been so insulted. IR needs to put this guy in his place or they will lose out popular support faster than they think.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114756430889057942

Trump is actually easy to manipulate. The only ones easier to manipulate are the retards running IR. He, much like Araghchi and co, takes everything at face value.

The Israelis were out of interceptors and the empire (America) wanted to alleviate the pressure from them. At the same time, Trump doesn't want to remain in prolong conflict. Iran also needed the ceasefire to fix the air defense issue in the West of the country. The difference here is Israel has US and E3 replenishing their missile interceptors, offensive weapons, and fuel tankers, whereas Iran doesn't have anyone coming to their aid.

So the ceasefire fire didn't have any benefit for Iran yet they agreed anyways.

 

[Yommie]

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[Persian Gulf]

Fair enough, but the question remains.

What's the general view currently?

I don't have a direct line to the military planners

so far the replacements like Pakpour do not impress me, they are same class of 60-70 year old IRGC commanders who think everything is awesome

everyone has convinced themselves that Iran won this war somehow so it's not encouraging

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

And it is an amazingly large force.

Not really, seeing how Iran stay united, although being extremely sanctioned for 46 years and being fed anti-Iranian propaganda every day.
But fact is that this could have been prevented if Iran was better prepared (that needs competence, swift executions of traitors, which the authorities neglected until before the attack). It's all related to corruption and nepotism. I hope Iran wakes up now, the enemy is not joking, they want to start multiple genocides in Asia.

 

[muz]

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[nang2]

Not really, seeing how Iran stay united, although being extremely sanctioned for 46 years and being fed anti-Iranian propaganda every day.
But fact is that this could have been prevented if Iran was better prepared (that needs competence, swift executions of traitors, which the authorities neglected until before the attack). It's all related to corruption and nepotism. I hope Iran wakes up now, the enemy is not joking, they want to start multiple genocides in Asia.

I haven't seen any army in the world that got his key figures assassinated in such a whole sale fashion. I think the unity of Iran is only an appearance. Under the surface, there are many factions that sabotage one another without remorse. That probably explains why Iran talks big but never carries its words to the same level.