Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

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Nothing. Next round will start soon. It's a ceasefire after all. It's temporary.

 

[OldTwilight]

These are silly rumors bro.

What are we gonna do with 40 J-10 against NATO forces in Iraq and Syria? How much time is needed to produce 40 jets? Its beyond ridiculous.

do you think we can shop fighter jets like clothes !? this kind of mentality lead us to this situation ...

we need to start from now ...

40 J10c + 64 su35 would be good addition to us in next 3 years ...


and no , no one will deliver 200 fighters to us in weeks .... even they give us , we don't have pilot and ground crew for it ....


just be realistic

 

[OldTwilight]

The US attacked Iran's nuclear facilities about a week ago.
If Iran doesn't test a nuclear device by the end of August or at most early September, then we can rest assured that something is terribly wrong and we were never a nuclear-threshold country, or we are fully compromised.

khamenei and his advisors are traitors , they are ready to give away enriched uranium to third countries

 

[ShapurII]

khamenei and his advisors are traitors , they are ready to give away enriched uranium to third countries

It's not the first time they do this. Khamenei is a Russian agent, how many times do I have to reiterate this?
We have turned into Russia's bitch. We enrich uranium and then hand it over to Russia every time. We cannot even make a decision on our own without discussing it with Russia.
Where are those people who said if our nuclear sites were attacked, the clock would start ticking for our first nuclear bomb?

The only difference is that if the US topples this regime, we will become a US bitch like other countries in the region. Nothing changes much for the Iranian people in reality, except for more suffering and years of instability for the next 5-10 years, followed by years of relative prosperity and free trade after Iran turns into a US bitch.

These idiots have turned a 90 million people with over 1,648,000 km2 of area and one of the largest industries in Asia into Beirut. We have a ceasefire with Israel, not a termination of hostilities and war, but a ceasefire. Let that sink in.

 

[ety]

Iran before the war: We don't need junk from China, we only like American weapons.
Iran during the war: Damn the Chinese, why don't they come to help us, a bunch of cowards.

Iran got the j10c and HQ9: Wow, I got a lot of PLA secrets.
Mossad: Me too.
CIA: Oh, yeah.
India: Nice.

They better get weapons from some other quality suppliers, inferior coward Chinese weapons such as J 10C and HQ 9 are junks not worthy for these mighty people.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Unfortunately, in today’s era, becoming a slave to the U.S. doesn’t even guarantee economic prosperity. Just look at Ukraine’s misery. Both the U.S. and the EU have formed significant economic blocs, shutting out emerging nations. Nowadays, countries that fall out of favor with the U.S. are simply destroyed.
The wealth of the Arab nations is a result of trade with China.
The U.S. is not only a crude oil importer but also an exporter, and it doesn’t even manufacture the machinery or raw materials that Middle Eastern countries need.

 

[SABRE]

The US attacked Iran's nuclear facilities about a week ago.
If Iran doesn't test a nuclear device by the end of August or at most early September, then we can rest assured that something is terribly wrong and we were never a nuclear-threshold country, or we are fully compromised.

It will first have to withdraw from the NPT with three months notice, lest it wants to legitimize another round of US strikes. So, let's say, if Iran notifies today, its NPT membership will end on 28th September. If Iran has prepared secret nuclear test site(s) that the world doesn't know of then it can relatively easily conduct nuclear tests anytime in October or November. If it has yet to prepare any test site(s) it should be ready for the attacks as soon as its activities are discovered.

 

[StrategicBear]

It's not the first time they do this. Khamenei is a Russian agent, how many times do I have to reiterate this?
We have turned into Russia's bitch. We enrich uranium and then hand it over to Russia every time. We cannot even make a decision on our own without discussing it with Russia.
Where are those people who said if our nuclear sites were attacked, the clock would start ticking for our first nuclear bomb?

The only difference is that if the US topples this regime, we will become a US bitch like other countries in the region. Nothing changes much for the Iranian people in reality, except for more suffering and years of instability for the next 5-10 years, followed by years of relative prosperity and free trade after Iran turns into a US bitch.

These idiots have turned a 90 million people with over 1,648,000 km2 of area and one of the largest industries in Asia into Beirut. We have a ceasefire with Israel, not a termination of hostilities and war, but a ceasefire. Let that sink in.

This all seems like a Conspiracy Plot to make all Muslims in the world feel depressed and shatter our hopes and dignity via Khamenei's traitorous behavior, right?

I bet those Demons actually feed off the Negative Emotions of Countless Depressed and Dejected/Despair Peoples and what better than to have 1.5-2 billion+ Muslims feel depressed at their Hopeful Country they think can defeat Zionist Aggression against Palestine, which is the Islamic Republic they pinned their hopes on called Iran, actually being run by a Zionist Stooge known as Khamenei?

 

[ShapurII]

It will first have to withdraw from the NPT with three months notice, lest it wants to legitimize another round of US strikes. So, let's say, if Iran notifies today, its NPT membership will end on 28th September. If Iran has prepared secret nuclear test site(s) that the world doesn't know of then it can relatively easily conduct nuclear tests anytime in October or November. If it has yet to prepare any test site(s) it should be ready for the attacks as soon as its activities are discovered.

Not really. These are just legalities. Iran can violate international law if it has nuclear weapons. What are they going to do? Sanction us? lol

 

[ShapurII]

This all seems like a Conspiracy Plot to make all Muslims in the world feel depressed and shatter our hopes and dignity via Khamenei's traitorous behavior, right?

I bet those Demons actually feed off the Negative Emotions of Countless Depressed and Dejected/Despair Peoples and what better than to have 1.5-2 billion+ Muslims feel depressed at their Hopeful Country they think can defeat Zionist Aggression against Palestine, which is the Islamic Republic they pinned their hopes on called Iran, actually being run by a Zionist Stooge known as Khamenei?

Do you have an alternative explanation for why Iran has been unable to build the bomb after 35 years? Iran started working on the bomb in 1988 after it felt that Saddam's extensive WMD ambitions were an existential threat to our country.

There's ample evidence that Iran was ready to conduct a nuclear test in 2001. We didn't have the fissile material, but we had the engineering part ready. We are in 2025 now. We have had enough uranium for going nuclear a couple of times in these 20 years, most notably in 2011-2015 (before the JCPOA) and in the last 18 months. What is stopping Iran, if not internal treason?

 

[muhammed45]

They can’t even save their own necks along with them Russians no?……what to speak about providing Iran with weapons?……

Russia was screwed in Ukraine failing to establish aerial buffer zone over Ukrainian territory and these guys are busy with undermining Iranians response.

They don't know what it means when you face American l, Israeli, British and French airforce in one location.

What Iran has done so far from helping Russia to save its back by drone tactics to slapping Israel and USA at same time, is unreachable for all of them.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Trump, emboldened by Iran’s weak stance, has intensified his threats, declaring that the U.S. will bomb Iran if it determines that Iran still retains uranium enrichment capabilities.
This is no longer a proxy war using Israel as a shield; direct U.S. military invasion is now imminent.
This is the result of rushing into a ceasefire. A country that seeks an early peace and loses the opportunity to fight will inevitably lose its sovereignty and be destroyed.
Can the IRGC still establish a military regime, eliminate the reformists, and prepare for a full scale resistance? To me, it seems hopeless.
The reformists are undoubtedly pressuring Khamenei right now to surrender unconditionally.

 

[SABRE]

Not really. These are just legalities. Iran can violate international law if it has nuclear weapons. What are they going to do? Sanction us? lol

That's what you think. Only the powerful can violate int'law and Iran is not powerful. The US would then have a legitimate reason to bomb Iran and pull off regime change, unless Iran demonstrates it has number of operational nuclear warheads already available. In any case, testing nukes would prove that Israel and the US were right and Iran was making a fool out of everyone. None of the Iran sympathizers would then be able to justify Iran's rights, including self defence. You need to realize Iran is not DPRK, which had tacit security guarantees from China and Russia, and also the fact that DPRK's neighbors - ROK and Japan - are not trigger-happy rogue states like Israel.

 

[ShapurII]

That's what you think. Only the powerful can violate int'law and Iran is not powerful. The US would then have a legitimate reason to bomb Iran and pull off regime change, unless Iran demonstrates it has number of operational nuclear warheads already available. In any case, testing nukes would prove that the Israel and the US were right and Iran was making a fool out of everyone. None of the Iran sympathizers would then be able to justify Iran's rights, including self defence. You need to realize Iran is not DPRK, which had tacit security guarantees from China and Russia, and also the fact that DPRK's neighbors - ROK and Japan - are not trigger-happy rogue states like Israel.

No, it is the truth.
There is nothing they could do to a nuclear Iran other than international sanctions.
If you think otherwise, please specify what you think they could do to Iran with 15-20 nuclear warheads. I'm all ears and open to the possibilities that you're going to specify now.

Because Iran's sympathizers have been sweating and struggling to help Iran and prove that we're right, right? Jews are trigger happy only when there will be no consequences. You can clearly see that Iran's ballistic missiles forced Israel to ask for a ceasefire to replenish their AD. It's strange that you're disputing a widely believed, and decade-long-tested theory of MAD.

 

[OldTwilight]

We should have nukes ....