Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

delta2 said:
Have you ever seen a house on fire?

There will be no survivors after a nuclear exchange. Nothing will be left except radioactive ash. If a few Indians survive here or there, they will have no water to drink or food to eat after one or two days, three days tops.

Your math is all wrong.

Don't be a sacrifial cow.
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Careful, using the term sacrificial cow might offend some people around here.
 
Corax said:
Most of the high value targets in india are within short distance for Pakistan, making them easy targets. But in a nuclear exchange india would probably fair better given it's larger rural population, and given indians breed like rats you should be able to repopulate quite quickly although the nuclear fallout will cause significant genetic issues above and beyond current ones.
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In nuclear war India as we know it will cease to exist. Like I doubt even cow belt can survive as one country let alone all of India.

No ethnic group in India make up more then 10% of population. This isnt like Pakistan where punjabis are 60%.
 
Indians going to test new cigar soon. All those tenders we tracked in May and Early June. India is spending up, filling the gaps in its armour where it can.

But its okay, its not like our side have been sat twiddling their thumbs either.
 
Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise said:
A war between India and Pakistan would have a widespread impact across the entirety of Pakistan, while there will be no effects on India or maybe some limited to border areas but, even those would be short-lived. For perspective, the 1971 war lasted only 12 days.

In the Russia-Ukraine war, the impact is being felt across all of Ukraine, while Russia remains largely unaffected. Similarly, during the Israel-Palestine conflict, the entire nation of Israel initially felt the effects due to its small geographical size. However, after the first few days, the conflict has been largely confined to Palestinian territories, with minimal impact on Israel.
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Its posts like this that makes sane people on the forum do facepalms and leads to frustration at the mindset of some Indians on here.
One of the most populated lands in the world would have no effects on India? Are you really this daft?
Comparing Pakistan and India conflict - 2 nuke armies with Palestine and Israel - shows us you may soon have to launch a new ID as this ones losing respect fast.
 
RescueRanger said:
Indians going to test new cigar soon. All those tenders we tracked in May and Early June. India is spending up, filling the gaps in its armour where it can.

But its okay, its not like our side have been sat twiddling their thumbs either.
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There are strong signs that the Indian government would want to find a reason to conduct strikes within Pakistan on some pretext. That is why their Operation Sindhoor is ongoing.

Knowing their psyche, they are angry they lost some strategic assets and an S400 (potentially). They would want to make it even.
 
Vkdindian1 said:
This has been discussed earlier too, but few children have still not understood why India and Pakistan agreed to the ceasefire.
They still want to claim victory based on who agreed to the ceasefire and who came under pressure and who would have beaten the daylights out of the other side, had the other side not slumped on its knees and begged for mercy.

No side was seeking a full war here. India just wanted to send a message through an initial strike. It got a shock when it lost a few aircraft. Even then, it was ready (probably) for an end to the show. But Pakistan awaam, and the establishment couldn’t let that slide. How can they accept a ceasefire without giving a muh tod zawaab?
That set in motion drone and loitering munition attacks by both sides. What they achieved through that is still in doubt, due to claims and counterclaims.
Meanwhile, the nations with some influence like the US and Qatar got talking to both sides.
That is the time when the Brahmos and Fatah exchange started. For Pak to show that it would give a solid reply to Indian aggression and for the Indian side to salvage something to show after losing those aircraft. Few more types of weapons were used in a limited way.

At this point too, both sides had achieved their narrative which had led to the start of the conflict. No side wanted any more escalation as they had nothing to gain further but the possibility of an uncontrollable or uncontainable situation.

That is why, when the offer came, through Trump baba or Qatar or someone still not known, both sides grabbed it and said - Fine. Let’s stop.

The impression that a few more days to the defence forces would have allowed them to maul the other side is nothing but delusion and daydreaming.

What had stayed out of that conflict till 10th May, were the Army, Navy, Ballistic missiles, and many other more potent weapons. Did any side intend to use them? Not till then, but any more escalation, and then, no one knows where it could have led.

Did India achieve its objective from deterring Pak to continue to provide any material support to cessationist in Kashmir, is for Pak Mil to decide and would never convey to openly. I have a doubt that they would do it. Munir has stated the reasons many times.
What is almost certain is that India is likely to strike directly at Pak mil next time.
With J35 joining the party, it would definitely be something else.
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Thanks for the commentary, tell us something we don't know. That's a short sighted and unsustainable strategy for both countries, there needs to be an end game.
 
El Sidd said:
India has categorically stated that Operation Sindoor is ongoing and a temporary pause has been strategically observed.

Pakistan has concluded Bunyan al Mars'us.
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All Pakistani and some Middle Eastern news agencies and channels are reporting heavy troop movements towards the Pakistan border and Indian navy mobilization.
All news agencies are predicting a full fledged war initiated by massive ballistic and cruise missile attacks by India on Pakistan. The Indian Air Force will not be used in the intial assault.
India has a short time window so a war imminent for the following reasons:
  1. Pakistan is improving it's drone, cruise missile, and ballistic missile defenses through pre-planned acquisitions ( HQ19 , KJ500 aircraft and Pantsir clones) which are due to be inducted in a few months.
  2. Pakistan is improving its capabilities to retaliate against massed supersonic cruise missile attacks with the pre-planned acquisition of hypersonic missiles (DF-17 ? ) which may be inducted in a few months,
Objectives:
First we must identify what are NOT the objectives, which is
retaliation against "terrorism " or elimination of "terrorist camps ".
The "new normal " objectives :
  • Tactical objective 1: Complete destruction of the infrastructure of the Pakistani Armed Forces particularly the Pakistani Air Force, and Navy. The targets are obvious: Air Bases, Air Defense systems, Naval bases and shipyards, Maximum damage to Pakistani combat aircraft on the ground. A 3000+ Brahmos and Agni missile attack is envisaged,
  • Tactical objectives 2. Destruction of Pakistan's nuclear weapons storage sites, and nuclear weapons production chain including all industrial units and laboratories . Maximum targeting of uranium enrichment plants possibly using small 5 kiloton warheads to smash through mountain rock and hit underground facilities. In THIS phase India is likely to use sub-kiloton munitions to destroy Pakistan's nuclear weapons assets,
  • Strategic objectives in Phase 2 : 1 Recapture of Azad Kashmir, what India calls Pakistan Azaad Kashmir by a massive air land attack . 2. Blockade and destruction of Karachi by Naval action , 3. Capture of Lahore in a massive armoured
  • Reduction of Pakistan into a landlocked "rump state " like Gaza for a later de-population program.
 
Baibers_1260 said:
All Pakistani and some Middle Eastern news agencies and channels are reporting heavy troop movements towards the Pakistan border and Indian navy mobilization.
All news agencies are predicting a full fledged war initiated by massive ballistic and cruise missile attacks by India on Pakistan. The Indian Air Force will not be used in the intial assault.
India has a short time window. In a few months
  1. Pakistan is improving it's drone, cruise missile, and ballistic missile defenses through pre-planned acquisitions ( HQ19 , KJ500 aircraft and Pantsir clones) which are due to be inducted in a few months.
  2. Pakistan is improving its capabilities to retaliate against massed supersonic cruise missile attacks with the pre-planned acquisition of hypersonic missiles (DF-17 ? ) which may be inducted in a few months,
Objectives:
First we must identify what are NOT the objectives, which is
retaliation against "terrorism " or elimination of "terrorist camps ". The "new normal " objectives :
  • Tactical objective 1: Complete destruction of the infrastructure of the Pakistani Armed Forces particularly the Pakistani Air Force, and Navy. The targets are obvious: Air Bases, Air Defense systems, Naval bases and shipyards, Maximum damage to Pakistani combat aircraft on the ground. A 3000+ Brahmos and Agni missile attack is envisaged,
  • Tactical objectives 2. Destruction of Pakistan's nuclear weapons storage sites, and nuclear weapons production chain including all industrial units and laboratories . Maximum targeting of uranium enrichment plants possibly using small 5 kiloton warheads to smash through mountain rock and hit underground facilities. In THIS phase India is likely to use sub-kiloton munitions to destroy Pakistan's nuclear weapons assets,
  • Strategic objectives in Phase 2 : 1 Recapture of Azad Kashmir, what India calls Pakistan Azaad Kashmir by a massive air land attack . 2. Blockade and destruction of Karachi by Naval action , 3. Capture of Lahore in a massive armoured
  • Reduction of Pakistan into a landlocked "rump state " like Gaza for a later de-population program.
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Lol the sky is falling.
 
They accepted partial damage to s-400. Indian people finally accepting that they lost something in this mini war. I don't think that we lost 6 jets. I didn't see any videos of our jets. All are stories from indians like s-400 targeted an awacs etc. Awacs was hit in bholari.

Point is we need to up the game. S-400 damage is great but we need more efficiency. We need pinpoint accuracy. I read a report somewhere where Indian army is looking for a particular satellite. It will show them exact locations of our assets even in hangars because of some technology. My point is they are more interested in PAF. They want to target PAF on the ground so that they can provide chance for IAF to win and If IAF won, game over.

Our enemy is monitoring us continuously using satellites. We must talk to Chinese so that they can pinpoint exact locations of IAF assets even inside hardened shelters. Preemptive strikes is the way forward. Nearby Indian airbases should be decimated.

It feels more like that something will happen again. They ae trying to blame us for passenger plane disaster. They didn't send black box immediately to DC. They first sent it to local lab. what they did in local lab is not known. They can alter data easily. I hope they don't blame us for sabotage. I mean it's stupid but we are dealing with mentally ill people so we must prepare for everything.
 
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