JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[frontline360news]

JF-17 destroyed s-400 radar .

The first ever A2A kill by a JF-17 Thunder has been confirmed to be a MiG 29 of the IAF.

 

[Yasser76]

The first ever A2A kill by a JF-17 Thunder has been confirmed to be a MiG 29 of the IAF.

Technically first kill was Iranian drone

 

[PakShaheen_79]

The first ever A2A kill by a JF-17 Thunder has been confirmed to be a MiG 29 of the IAF.

Source of this info?

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Where stealth came from brother procurement of j16E will be totally for standoff missiles its not the replacement of j35. F16v is worst choice we can make that role j10 is already doing magnificently. Its serves no purpose secondly if IAF gets f35 both will be on link 16.... And if we get kj500 no compatibility.and also which missiles usa gives with f16v is another debate. In the end they will also say aim120-d is for counter terrorism operations e.g.

The J-16 offers valuable capabilities like deep strike, electronic warfare (via J-16D), and multirole flexibility that could complement Pakistan’s air doctrine especially in SEAD or maritime roles. However, its high cost, lack of stealth, and redundant overlap with J-10C raise serious concerns. It doesn’t fully align with PAF’s current emphasis on agility, affordability, and survivability. Unless Pakistan commits to building a heavy strike tier, the J-16 remains a niche rather than a doctrinal fit.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

That's now its works that single jet carrying 4 missile will be wasted if shot down by that logic what if jet get shot down its more expensive than missiles. It will be in the strike package all together protected by all other assets in synergy. Taimur and raad is not for Coventional role.

Bro Taimur is definitely for conventional role. Its even marketed for export.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Bigger is not always better, China is working on compact design long range missiles.

 

[RealNapster]

Do we know for sure that all JF-17 block 1 are upgraded to block 2 standard ? And if yes, are there any plans to bring them to block 3 by adding AESA and everything else ?

Also, it seems that we stopped making anymore Block 3 after the initial 24-26, why is that ?

@Be dazzled , @Reichmarshal

 

[Ali_Baba]

Do we know for sure that all JF-17 block 1 are upgraded to block 2 standard ? And if yes, are there any plans to bring them to block 3 by adding AESA and everything else ?

Also, it seems that we stopped making anymore Block 3 after the initial 24-26, why is that ?

@Be dazzled , @Reichmarshal

All of the Block 1's have been upgraded to Block II now. Those that were originally Block 1's and converted to Block II's, however cannot be converted to Block III due to structural design issues. Block II can adopt the avionics of Block III though. JF17Bs are Block 2.5, and can be made to fully Block III standard.

PAC is busy completing the Azerbaijan order of JF17Cs ( up to 40 units apparently ), there maybe a batch/uptick for PAF when PAC brings all airframe manufacturing inhouse to Pakistan i suspect (no plans on future procurements announced). Alternatively, PAF may be saving all its cash for the J-35AE procurement.

 

[Be dazzled]

Do we know for sure that all JF-17 block 1 are upgraded to block 2 standard ? And if yes, are there any plans to bring them to block 3 by adding AESA and everything else ?

Also, it seems that we stopped making anymore Block 3 after the initial 24-26, why is that ?

@Be dazzled , @Reichmarshal

Who will fulfill Azeri blk 3 order if not PAC/ AMF? CAC doesnt make them anymore.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

All of the Block 1's have been upgraded to Block II now. Those that were originally Block 1's and converted to Block II's, however cannot be converted to Block III due to structural design issues. Block II can adopt the avionics of Block III though. JF17Bs are Block 2.5, and can be made to fully Block III standard.

PAC is busy completing the Azerbaijan order of JF17Cs ( up to 40 units apparently ), there maybe a batch/uptick for PAF when PAC brings all airframe manufacturing inhouse to Pakistan i suspect (no plans on future procurements announced). Alternatively, PAF may be saving all its cash for the J-35AE procurement.

Quick thought and a question. it’s widely reported that Azerbaijan’s JF-17s will be upgraded with Turkish systems, including ASELSAN subsystems, Turkish munitions, and possibly even a Turkish radar. Some are calling this upgrade the ‘Block 4’ or the ‘Anka Edition.’ Is this correct?

Recently, photos surfaced online showing a JF-17 equipped with an IRST system. Some analysts suggest it might’ve been part of early Block 3 testing, which Pakistan later chose not to pursue. That said, with so many fake or misleading claims out there, I’m not saying it’s confirmed. just something that caught my eye.

 

[RealNapster]

Who will fulfill Azeri blk 3 order if not PAC/ AMF? CAC doesnt make them anymore.

I believe PAC have not made any block 3 in 2025, long before Azeri deal.

 

[Desprado123]

It was reported that Pakistan has around 201 JF 17. Is this correct or no one can guess the figure at the moment.

 

[Samurai]

No, all of our fighters can carry them.

The reason why he is proposing the J-16 is because it's a larger heavy weight platform, so in one sortie it can carry and launch a lot more missiles and bombs. This is why colloquially they call it a "bomb truck" or "missile truck"

JF-17:

Number of hardpoints: 7
Total payload: 3,600kg

J-16

Number of hardpoints: 12
Total payload: 8,000kg

Yeah, remember how Israel Airforce used its F35 for EW and doing SEAD/DEAD while using F15 as "bomb trucks" to strike multiple targets alongside F16. F35 has limited range and carry weight but has higher stealth and EW features. Plus all are integrated across the data-link and share battlefield data... so its a mix and match type scenario.

 

[Reichmarshal]

Do we know for sure that all JF-17 block 1 are upgraded to block 2 standard ? And if yes, are there any plans to bring them to block 3 by adding AESA and everything else ?

Also, it seems that we stopped making anymore Block 3 after the initial 24-26, why is that ?

@Be dazzled , @Reichmarshal

Yes.
Airframe plus engine limitations of block 1 can't be upgraded to block 3...but their was talk of a smaller easa radar for the block 2.
We havent stopped making block 3, its just that right now we are making them for our export customers. If u believe aviation monthly then PAC already has produced and delivered 50 block 3 to PAF.

 

[SaadH]

I agree. Pakistan let India escape its strategic blunder on May 7th , with loss of just a few Rafales. Pakistani high command was even thinking that was good enough to end hostilities, and was again surprised when India sent drones the next day. After letting Pakistan being hit for 4 days, a weak sauce retaliation was conducted against India. I see no reason for Munira to have elevated himself to Field Marshal based on this poor performance.

If Pakistan had fired at all the Indian aircraft it had a lock on May 7th, and had around 20 to 30 confirmed kills, India would be have been deterred for next 20 years.

This is the very reason Pakistan has effectively lost each every war against India.